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I really wish they'd give podman-compose some love.

by pydry 3y ago

jadbox 3y ago
What's missing? The release of podman desktop says it has compatibility with docker compose..
- mati365 3y ago
  love
- tjoff 3y ago
  Haven't transitioned to podman, yet, so maybe out of place - but: Not sure how that is relevant to podman-compose?
dmarinus 3y ago
you can actually use docker-compose with podman
yrro 3y ago
These days Podman implements the docker API, so it's easier to use docker-compose. I am not sure if there's any compelling reason to use podman-compose any more.
- deleted 3y ago
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- pydry 3y ago
  It's kind of a pain to set up a port for docker compose to talk to. podman compose is effectively 90% finished too. It's just annoying seeing some roughness around the edges. I'm not convinced it would be all that hard to make it better than docker compose, either.
  - yrro 3y ago
    I suppose it would be nice if podman.socket was enabled by default. Socket activation means that it wouldn't actaully launch podman-system-service unless something connected to it. For me the problem with podman-compose is that it will be continuously chasing the moving target of what docker-compose is able to do. Hence there will forever be developers trying it out, finding out that "it doesn't work" and, in wanting to just get on with their jobs, going back to docker-compose... and in the process filing "podman" away in that little box in the back of their head of stuff that doesn't work. Implementing the docker API seems to have worked out much better, I suppose it too is a moving target but it seems to move slower; I can at least download some demo docker-compose.yaml files and process them with docker-compose talking to podman and they worked out of the box!
kuratkull 3y ago
We are a Podman shop. Podman itself works fine, but for Compose we kinda have to use docker-compose (and very soon "docker compose" due to the former getting deprecated in a week). I found several major and minor issues when I fed our Compose files to podman compose, I even created a pull request for one that was easily fixable with a single line change, but I'm weary of using it for production right now. Hoping Podman compose gets some love from a big player, b/c it seems RH is only focused on Kube.
- freedomben 3y ago
  > Hoping Podman compose gets some love from a big player, b/c it seems RH is only focused on Kube. Can you expand on this a bit? What is an example of something you'd like another player to do that RH isn't doing?
ragnese 3y ago
podman-compose was never official, though- was it? I'm still using it, because the last time I had time to mess with it, docker-compose still required a lot of fiddling to work with podman. From the other replies to your comment, I guess it must have gotten better, so I'll guess I'll try docker-compose again soon.

I really wish they'd give podman-compose some love.

by pydry 3y ago

I really wish they'd give podman-compose some love.

jadbox 3y ago

What's missing? The release of podman desktop says it has compatibility with docker compose..

mati365 3y ago
love
tjoff 3y ago
Haven't transitioned to podman, yet, so maybe out of place - but: Not sure how that is relevant to podman-compose?

dmarinus 3y ago

you can actually use docker-compose with podman

yrro 3y ago

These days Podman implements the docker API, so it's easier to use docker-compose. I am not sure if there's any compelling reason to use podman-compose any more.

deleted 3y ago
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pydry 3y ago
It's kind of a pain to set up a port for docker compose to talk to. podman compose is effectively 90% finished too. It's just annoying seeing some roughness around the edges. I'm not convinced it would be all that hard to make it better than docker compose, either.
- yrro 3y ago
  I suppose it would be nice if podman.socket was enabled by default. Socket activation means that it wouldn't actaully launch podman-system-service unless something connected to it. For me the problem with podman-compose is that it will be continuously chasing the moving target of what docker-compose is able to do. Hence there will forever be developers trying it out, finding out that "it doesn't work" and, in wanting to just get on with their jobs, going back to docker-compose... and in the process filing "podman" away in that little box in the back of their head of stuff that doesn't work. Implementing the docker API seems to have worked out much better, I suppose it too is a moving target but it seems to move slower; I can at least download some demo docker-compose.yaml files and process them with docker-compose talking to podman and they worked out of the box!

kuratkull 3y ago

We are a Podman shop. Podman itself works fine, but for Compose we kinda have to use docker-compose (and very soon "docker compose" due to the former getting deprecated in a week). I found several major and minor issues when I fed our Compose files to podman compose, I even created a pull request for one that was easily fixable with a single line change, but I'm weary of using it for production right now. Hoping Podman compose gets some love from a big player, b/c it seems RH is only focused on Kube.

freedomben 3y ago
> Hoping Podman compose gets some love from a big player, b/c it seems RH is only focused on Kube. Can you expand on this a bit? What is an example of something you'd like another player to do that RH isn't doing?

ragnese 3y ago

podman-compose was never official, though- was it? I'm still using it, because the last time I had time to mess with it, docker-compose still required a lot of fiddling to work with podman. From the other replies to your comment, I guess it must have gotten better, so I'll guess I'll try docker-compose again soon.