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> I know they can get a great education Too bad the people doing the hiring don't know that.

ke88y 3y ago
The unemployement rate is around 3%-4%, and at least 99% of people don't have degrees from elite universities.
currymj 3y ago
fyi at least in STEM type fields, the top students at one of the good state schools have pretty similar opportunities to Stanford MIT etc. you can go work for big tech, top HFT and finance firms, go to top grad schools, or whatever. unlike at Stanford/MIT/Ivy, it's not the default path, so it takes a little bit more scheming while you're there to make sure you stand out, but it's still quite common every year.
DrThunder 3y ago
Huh? You believe people that don't go to Ive League schools are just living in squalor? I don't know of any jobs that require a degree from those schools. MIT is even more silly because most tech sector jobs don't care where your degree is from. I'm sure there's some weird pompous elitist corporation out there that only pulls from those schools but no one NEEDS to work at those places. If you're basing your success off of gaining entry into those schools I have to guess you grew up in a very closed off, extremely wealthy area.
- ke88y 3y ago
  > If you're basing your success off of gaining entry into those schools I have to guess you grew up in a very closed off, extremely wealthy area. Either that or a middle income/upper middle income immigrant community. Often the intersection of the two. But, yeah. Having worked at several and in the orbit of basically of them: I'm an extreme skeptic of undergraduate prestige factories. Go to a school with decent resources. That's a MUCH better way to think about it than "decent school", which could mean anything. Want does that mean? Depends on your major. Once there, be curious. Be voracious. Advocate for yourself. Major it whatever you want. But also make sure at least one of your majors has a lower-risk career track to fall back on. Never, ever accept "prestige" in lieu of either opportunities to grow or earn cold hard $$$. Always remember you live in a capital-ist society. People and institutions say they value a lot of things -- knowledge, God, country. But in a Capital-ism, power and comfort flow from people who have access to capital to whomever those people please.

The unemployement rate is around 3%-4%, and at least 99% of people don't have degrees from elite universities.

fyi at least in STEM type fields, the top students at one of the good state schools have pretty similar opportunities to Stanford MIT etc. you can go work for big tech, top HFT and finance firms, go to top grad schools, or whatever. unlike at Stanford/MIT/Ivy, it's not the default path, so it takes a little bit more scheming while you're there to make sure you stand out, but it's still quite common every year.

DrThunder 3y ago

Huh? You believe people that don't go to Ive League schools are just living in squalor? I don't know of any jobs that require a degree from those schools. MIT is even more silly because most tech sector jobs don't care where your degree is from. I'm sure there's some weird pompous elitist corporation out there that only pulls from those schools but no one NEEDS to work at those places. If you're basing your success off of gaining entry into those schools I have to guess you grew up in a very closed off, extremely wealthy area.

ke88y 3y ago
> If you're basing your success off of gaining entry into those schools I have to guess you grew up in a very closed off, extremely wealthy area. Either that or a middle income/upper middle income immigrant community. Often the intersection of the two. But, yeah. Having worked at several and in the orbit of basically of them: I'm an extreme skeptic of undergraduate prestige factories. Go to a school with decent resources. That's a MUCH better way to think about it than "decent school", which could mean anything. Want does that mean? Depends on your major. Once there, be curious. Be voracious. Advocate for yourself. Major it whatever you want. But also make sure at least one of your majors has a lower-risk career track to fall back on. Never, ever accept "prestige" in lieu of either opportunities to grow or earn cold hard $$$. Always remember you live in a capital-ist society. People and institutions say they value a lot of things -- knowledge, God, country. But in a Capital-ism, power and comfort flow from people who have access to capital to whomever those people please.