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I get it, I agree with it, but I also grew up with unfettered access to the Internet during a period of time when the World Wide Web was growing and maturing an

I get it, I agree with it, but I also grew up with unfettered access to the Internet during a period of time when the World Wide Web was growing and maturing and you saw a lot of stuff you shouldn’t have as a kid. It seems like extreme helicoptering to restrict your children from things like this that are in the world and it’s an easy way out. Hey! All of a sudden you don’t have to parent. Some software can do it for you. I’d prefer to teach my children right from wrong instead. Not shelter them from it. It’s super weird.

svachalek 3y ago
Me too. But when it was growing and maturing it was a much nicer place. Now it's full on rotten.
SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
I think the difference is we found that on our own. Maybe you showed a friend or two. Maybe you were the one to introduce your friends to ICQ. But those things are nothing like the hyper connected hyper expectations of being constantly online and being part of “current thing”. I get your goals, but I’m not sure as parents we can compete with an absolutely all encompassing relationship with a screen, where the best in the brightest in the world are working constantly to make sure your kids sees x, believes y, repeats z. There is a strong chance that the only way to win is to not play.
yifanl 3y ago
When we were growing up, people weren't getting paid to get us to click on lemonparty.
bart_spoon 3y ago
You could be suffering from survivorship bias
- andrewmcwatters 3y ago
  Probably. Certainly worth acknowledging. I realize the Internet now isn’t what it was then. Perhaps my approach is naive. I’m sure I’m missing nuance.
drak0n1c 3y ago
The internet that required users to purposefully sit down at a functional desktop PC and bear with significant latency to interact with it is quite different from the internet defined everyone with a touchscreen in their pocket. Yes, there were crazies and degenerates on the old internet, but there at least was a modicum of thoughtfulness and sense in much of the user generated content. Because of the functional difference, using parental controls on the most addicting apps and sites during younger ages starts to make sense. Getting your child to conform to your value system is not the important part, what's arguably more damaging is the negative effects of emotional and mental addiction to social media and its trends, along with addiction to touchscreen usage itself - kids raised with touchscreens too early often lack the patience or self-control to read books, indulge their own imagination, or even watch a movie. I too was allowed free reign on the internet in the early 00's as a child and teenager. I saw the shock sites, and browsed /b/ with schoolmates. However, the computer I used was a shared computer in the living room, not my own room. And I still fell into game addiction that affected my academic performance and mood until parental intervention. It's worth looking out for.

svachalek 3y ago

Me too. But when it was growing and maturing it was a much nicer place. Now it's full on rotten.

SV_BubbleTime 3y ago

I think the difference is we found that on our own. Maybe you showed a friend or two. Maybe you were the one to introduce your friends to ICQ. But those things are nothing like the hyper connected hyper expectations of being constantly online and being part of “current thing”. I get your goals, but I’m not sure as parents we can compete with an absolutely all encompassing relationship with a screen, where the best in the brightest in the world are working constantly to make sure your kids sees x, believes y, repeats z. There is a strong chance that the only way to win is to not play.

yifanl 3y ago

When we were growing up, people weren't getting paid to get us to click on lemonparty.

bart_spoon 3y ago

You could be suffering from survivorship bias

andrewmcwatters 3y ago
Probably. Certainly worth acknowledging. I realize the Internet now isn’t what it was then. Perhaps my approach is naive. I’m sure I’m missing nuance.

drak0n1c 3y ago

The internet that required users to purposefully sit down at a functional desktop PC and bear with significant latency to interact with it is quite different from the internet defined everyone with a touchscreen in their pocket. Yes, there were crazies and degenerates on the old internet, but there at least was a modicum of thoughtfulness and sense in much of the user generated content. Because of the functional difference, using parental controls on the most addicting apps and sites during younger ages starts to make sense. Getting your child to conform to your value system is not the important part, what's arguably more damaging is the negative effects of emotional and mental addiction to social media and its trends, along with addiction to touchscreen usage itself - kids raised with touchscreens too early often lack the patience or self-control to read books, indulge their own imagination, or even watch a movie. I too was allowed free reign on the internet in the early 00's as a child and teenager. I saw the shock sites, and browsed /b/ with schoolmates. However, the computer I used was a shared computer in the living room, not my own room. And I still fell into game addiction that affected my academic performance and mood until parental intervention. It's worth looking out for.