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In a round about way, I think it does mean being able to live around humans, by being less violent, and well: dumber. Humans were also domesticated, killed each

In a round about way, I think it does mean being able to live around humans, by being less violent, and well: dumber. Humans were also domesticated, killed each other less (if you can believe that), became even dumber (if you can believe that), and well: look at our population. Here's basically the same article about bonobos, https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tame-theory-did-bonobos/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tame-theory-did-b... Being less aggressive, if I'm not reading things backwards, allows for a longer maturation time, and perhaps higher intelligence. Some domesticated animals show high intelligence, like bonobos and dogs. I wonder if the same idea applies to dolphins.

bikeshaving 3y ago
I truly, truly think that even if there is a sense in which being sociable and non-violent is “dumber,” it actually is one of the most mentally taxing things you can actually do on a daily basis. It requires good posture control, a diplomatic tone, a great theory of mind, and so so so much patience. Like this is what people talk about when they say a lack of privilege ages them prematurely.
- justinator 3y ago
  My "became even dumber" was somewhat tongue and cheek, but a lower brain volume is what they are seeing in humans, bonobos, elephants, dogs - when compared to the "wilder" cousins/ancestors. >Like this is what people talk about when they say a lack of privilege ages them prematurely. I don't... know if I agree? I think generally being oppressed by the privilege class is quite detrimental to one's health, as well as having less access to things like healthcare. Compound this with a complete gaslighting of the privilege class telling the lesser that they actually DO have it well off and have NO reason to complain - all the while distancing the haves to the have-nots, and it's no wonder that well: there aren't as many violent uprising happening (and the ones that are, usually are spun to not be seen that way). Yeah - yeah: that can age someone.

bikeshaving 3y ago

I truly, truly think that even if there is a sense in which being sociable and non-violent is “dumber,” it actually is one of the most mentally taxing things you can actually do on a daily basis. It requires good posture control, a diplomatic tone, a great theory of mind, and so so so much patience. Like this is what people talk about when they say a lack of privilege ages them prematurely.

justinator 3y ago
My "became even dumber" was somewhat tongue and cheek, but a lower brain volume is what they are seeing in humans, bonobos, elephants, dogs - when compared to the "wilder" cousins/ancestors. >Like this is what people talk about when they say a lack of privilege ages them prematurely. I don't... know if I agree? I think generally being oppressed by the privilege class is quite detrimental to one's health, as well as having less access to things like healthcare. Compound this with a complete gaslighting of the privilege class telling the lesser that they actually DO have it well off and have NO reason to complain - all the while distancing the haves to the have-nots, and it's no wonder that well: there aren't as many violent uprising happening (and the ones that are, usually are spun to not be seen that way). Yeah - yeah: that can age someone.