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The world is as good as it's ever has been in human history. Minorities, females, lgbtq members, etc, have more rights, are more protected and represented than
by trabant00 3y ago
The world is as good as it's ever has been in human history. Minorities, females, lgbtq members, etc, have more rights, are more protected and represented than ever. Extreme poverty is down, life expectancy is up. Human rights for any group are enforced as never before. But mental health issues are still going up at alarming rates. So it must be something else.
I have various hypothesis as to what other causes may be but they're not worth very much. The problem is too complex for one head to understand it. It's like trying to determine the cluster health from one server. IT CAN NOT BE DONE. I don't care what your credentials are, if you're not a god you can't do it.
I am willing to present this hypothesis in public: presenting the world in an idealized and false light, pretending that it should a safe space for everybody in which conflicts of interest and identities should not bother anybody is not helping. Generations are growing up expecting the world to embrace them, their identity, their ideas. This is causing fragility.
- tptacek 3y agoThis has nothing to do with the article.
- trabant00 3y agoThe article states multiple times that harassment, bullying, abuse and general toxicity is affecting science workers in general, but in particular women and minorities. My post states that said abuses are historically at a low point, especially for those groups, thus can not explain the rise in mental health issues. How exactly does this have "nothing to do with the article"?
- BeFlatXIII 3y agoIt's nothing to do with the article because general societal trends may not be relevant within a specific industry.
- pelasaco 3y agoBut exactly the "general societal trends" are used to make a point, so how it's not related?
- pelasaco 3y agoYour comment has everything to do with the article, but unfortunately, the "it has nothing to do with the article" is one of the issues with Science. To keep my argumentation on topic: Historically, scientists never had a so safe life like today. In the past, scientists used to put their life at stake. Galileo, Copernicus, Turin, Einstein..
- tptacek 3y agoYes, yes, one of the great challenges of modern science is that we're not murdering the scientists anymore.
- pelasaco 3y ago> Yes, yes, one of the great challenges of modern science is that we're not murdering the scientists anymore. I hope that's not how you really understood it and you are just reducing the discussion to a childish level to try to get some points...
- Chris2048 3y agoEinstein?
- pelasaco 3y ago"When Hitler came to power in January 1933, Einstein was in California and was almost immediately deprived of his posts in Berlin and his membership of the Prussian Academy of Sciences. His property was seized and his books were burned in public. Einstein never returned to Germany, and signed a letter to President Roosevelt alerting him to the fact that Germany might be developing an atomic weapon. He recommended that the US begin similar research."[1] [1]: https://www.wired.com/2012/06/famous-persecuted-scientists/ https://www.wired.com/2012/06/famous-persecuted-scientists/
- Chris2048 3y agoBut Einstein's pursuit of Science wasn't what put him in danger? In fact it might have made it easier to flee?
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- CatWChainsaw 3y agoAh, the "quit complaining fallacy" makes an appearance. Things are better now than they were so shut up and take your lumps.