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>The fault here lies with Congress. The fault lies with the idea that there always needs to be an enemy.

tekknik 3y ago
What experience, metrics, literally any data are you basing this on? Do you believe Russia is a current enemy of the US? How about North Korea and China?
- cmilton 3y ago
  The life I've lived would be my experience. I have had zero direct interactions with any of these enemies. Enemies to the US aren't necessarily enemies to me. Should I be forced to inherit these enemies? I agree with self defense. However, I'm not sure this is always the case.
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    > The life I've lived would be my experience. I have had zero direct interactions with any of these enemies. Is that perhaps a direct result of the USG protecting you from them?
    - chmod775 3y ago
      I've been to Russia and China and didn't get lynched. Didn't notice my country providing bodyguards.
      - tekknik 3y ago
        And I’ve been in an actual warzone in an enemy country, that doesn’t change that they’re enemies
    - cmilton 3y ago
      Possibly. How do you propose we prove otherwise?
      - tekknik 3y ago
        Potentially listen to the threats coming from all 3 countries?
  - tekknik 3y ago
    Do you believe nuclear or conventional weapons choose only military targets when they explode? Do you believe standing in any major city that you are safe from any kind of bomb? Or are we going to play the game of “it hasn’t happened yet”? Perhaps the US military should just lay down their weapons cause there’s clearly no threat?
argiopetech 3y ago
There doesn't need to be an enemy, but there is never not an enemy. I mean this on the petty, day to day, citizen level, not the global political scale. Organized crime exists and must be investigated and prosecuted to avoid endangering the everyday life of the citizenry. When this crime crosses state borders, a federal investigatory body can be an asset. I think the FBI has succumbed to scope creep and overstepped what I perceive as their remit; however, that doesn't mean they're an unnecessary body.

What experience, metrics, literally any data are you basing this on? Do you believe Russia is a current enemy of the US? How about North Korea and China?

cmilton 3y ago
The life I've lived would be my experience. I have had zero direct interactions with any of these enemies. Enemies to the US aren't necessarily enemies to me. Should I be forced to inherit these enemies? I agree with self defense. However, I'm not sure this is always the case.
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  > The life I've lived would be my experience. I have had zero direct interactions with any of these enemies. Is that perhaps a direct result of the USG protecting you from them?
  - chmod775 3y ago
    I've been to Russia and China and didn't get lynched. Didn't notice my country providing bodyguards.
    - tekknik 3y ago
      And I’ve been in an actual warzone in an enemy country, that doesn’t change that they’re enemies
  - cmilton 3y ago
    Possibly. How do you propose we prove otherwise?
    - tekknik 3y ago
      Potentially listen to the threats coming from all 3 countries?
- tekknik 3y ago
  Do you believe nuclear or conventional weapons choose only military targets when they explode? Do you believe standing in any major city that you are safe from any kind of bomb? Or are we going to play the game of “it hasn’t happened yet”? Perhaps the US military should just lay down their weapons cause there’s clearly no threat?

argiopetech 3y ago

There doesn't need to be an enemy, but there is never not an enemy. I mean this on the petty, day to day, citizen level, not the global political scale. Organized crime exists and must be investigated and prosecuted to avoid endangering the everyday life of the citizenry. When this crime crosses state borders, a federal investigatory body can be an asset. I think the FBI has succumbed to scope creep and overstepped what I perceive as their remit; however, that doesn't mean they're an unnecessary body.