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The most interesting fact about GDPR is that it doesn’t apply to governments.

by nickpp 3y ago

jruohonen 3y ago
What? Of course it applies to governments. The notable exemptions are national security and law enforcement, and for the latter there is a separate data protection directive. See Art. 23 for a full list.
blitzar 3y ago
Its like the bendy bananas or turkey certain to be joining the EU next week (5 years ago) all over again
moi2388 3y ago
Not only does it apply to them, they are one of the fees actually taking it really seriously
- candiodari 3y ago
  The most protected class of data is medical data ... which in most European countries is only in public hands. And this data is being sent to insurance companies, mostly because they're also public or semi-public (and exceptions were made for this). Every government gets to appoint a board that makes exceptions to the GPDR for them. So this is "OK", if that's what you mean by "taking it really seriously". The main reason for the GPDR was to ensure this wouldn't happen. Likewise ever more data is being shared. For example, psychological diagnoses are now used in divorce proceedings (determining child care, alimony, ...). How did this happen? Well first, police and social services have demanded, everywhere, that medical data be shared with them (mostly for the purpose of finding people for debt recovery by arresting them when they go for medical treatment. One can only hope they do have the decency to arrest them AFTER actually getting said medical treatment) ... Then social services is present at all divorce proceedings now (which also was supposed to help, but the main problem was waiting times, scheduling, reaction time, and of course this is also making that problem, the main problem, worse) If this is what you mean by governments taking the GPDR seriously, sure, they're making sure they're going through motions. Does the GPDR actually protect individuals from "powerful interests", as was promised? No. No it doesn't. I would declare the GPDR a total failure. It most certainly did not have the intended effect, and it is a constant cost and nuisance to everyone. Ironically it is a cost and nuisance BOTH for companies attempting to exploit user data AND the users themselves.

The most interesting fact about GDPR is that it doesn’t apply to governments.

by nickpp 3y ago

The most interesting fact about GDPR is that it doesn’t apply to governments.

What? Of course it applies to governments. The notable exemptions are national security and law enforcement, and for the latter there is a separate data protection directive. See Art. 23 for a full list.

blitzar 3y ago

Its like the bendy bananas or turkey certain to be joining the EU next week (5 years ago) all over again

moi2388 3y ago

Not only does it apply to them, they are one of the fees actually taking it really seriously

candiodari 3y ago
The most protected class of data is medical data ... which in most European countries is only in public hands. And this data is being sent to insurance companies, mostly because they're also public or semi-public (and exceptions were made for this). Every government gets to appoint a board that makes exceptions to the GPDR for them. So this is "OK", if that's what you mean by "taking it really seriously". The main reason for the GPDR was to ensure this wouldn't happen. Likewise ever more data is being shared. For example, psychological diagnoses are now used in divorce proceedings (determining child care, alimony, ...). How did this happen? Well first, police and social services have demanded, everywhere, that medical data be shared with them (mostly for the purpose of finding people for debt recovery by arresting them when they go for medical treatment. One can only hope they do have the decency to arrest them AFTER actually getting said medical treatment) ... Then social services is present at all divorce proceedings now (which also was supposed to help, but the main problem was waiting times, scheduling, reaction time, and of course this is also making that problem, the main problem, worse) If this is what you mean by governments taking the GPDR seriously, sure, they're making sure they're going through motions. Does the GPDR actually protect individuals from "powerful interests", as was promised? No. No it doesn't. I would declare the GPDR a total failure. It most certainly did not have the intended effect, and it is a constant cost and nuisance to everyone. Ironically it is a cost and nuisance BOTH for companies attempting to exploit user data AND the users themselves.