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I’d like to see some labelling crack down around some of the health claims of the obviously less-healthy alt-milks and plant based foods. I’ve dabbled in some

I’d like to see some labelling crack down around some of the health claims of the obviously less-healthy alt-milks and plant based foods. I’ve dabbled in some of the non-dairy milks, and do particularly like oat. However some of them are just sugar water and protein powder if you do a little digging. I suppose there’s also concerns about infants being switched to dairy alternatives without consulting a doctor.

Glant 3y ago
Why would you need to consult a doctor about not giving your kid dairy?
- Double_a_92 3y ago
  Infants should not really be drinking anything else besides breast milk or special milk in general. Like not even water... So I could see how militant vegan people could endanger their babys. But not because plant based milk is inherently bad.
  - Glant 3y ago
    Is breast milk considered dairy? I've never met a vegan who has issues with breastfeeding
    - steveBK123 3y ago
      Remember that product safety labelling is for the 5% of population that are either idiots or insane. Just because in your socio-economic circles, no one is a militant enough vegan to feed a nursing baby Oatly or whatever, doesn't mean people out there don't need some guidance. I mean there's vegans out there putting their carnivore pets like cats on vegan diets, so you can see someone thinking "hey it's just another milk replacement.. it's healthy!" feeding it to an infant is certainly not a 0.001% edge case.
- OJFord 3y ago
  I'm not sure 'a doctor' is necessarily the right person to consult, but lack of it can induce lactose intolerance, and it's a good source of calcium which children have greater need of than adults (so a dairy-free diet that's been great for you for 20y isn't necessarily great for your child), and perhaps other vitamins, IANA expert. And since GP said infants, if we're including (human) breast milk as 'dairy' then it probably is reasonable to ask doctor about it - IANA parent either but I think the standard powder or whatever substitutes are still (non-human) dairy products?
Double_a_92 3y ago
To be fair in the end milk is also just sugar water with fat in it...
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- steveBK123 3y ago
  Right, but for infants, the balance of sugar-fat-protein is a matter of vital health, rather than texture&taste which is what most of the dairy milk substitutes are optimized for.

Glant 3y ago

Why would you need to consult a doctor about not giving your kid dairy?

Double_a_92 3y ago
Infants should not really be drinking anything else besides breast milk or special milk in general. Like not even water... So I could see how militant vegan people could endanger their babys. But not because plant based milk is inherently bad.
- Glant 3y ago
  Is breast milk considered dairy? I've never met a vegan who has issues with breastfeeding
  - steveBK123 3y ago
    Remember that product safety labelling is for the 5% of population that are either idiots or insane. Just because in your socio-economic circles, no one is a militant enough vegan to feed a nursing baby Oatly or whatever, doesn't mean people out there don't need some guidance. I mean there's vegans out there putting their carnivore pets like cats on vegan diets, so you can see someone thinking "hey it's just another milk replacement.. it's healthy!" feeding it to an infant is certainly not a 0.001% edge case.
OJFord 3y ago
I'm not sure 'a doctor' is necessarily the right person to consult, but lack of it can induce lactose intolerance, and it's a good source of calcium which children have greater need of than adults (so a dairy-free diet that's been great for you for 20y isn't necessarily great for your child), and perhaps other vitamins, IANA expert. And since GP said infants, if we're including (human) breast milk as 'dairy' then it probably is reasonable to ask doctor about it - IANA parent either but I think the standard powder or whatever substitutes are still (non-human) dairy products?

Double_a_92 3y ago

To be fair in the end milk is also just sugar water with fat in it...

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steveBK123 3y ago
Right, but for infants, the balance of sugar-fat-protein is a matter of vital health, rather than texture&taste which is what most of the dairy milk substitutes are optimized for.