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> Colocation is more fun too. You get to have lunch with your team, grab beers on Friday nights, play video games at the end of the day in the office Lost me.

> Colocation is more fun too. You get to have lunch with your team, grab beers on Friday nights, play video games at the end of the day in the office Lost me. I have family and friends for fun, you should get some as well. Using your employees to fill that void in your life is ... petty, to say they least. My Friday nights are for the abovementioned family and friends. Which you should, as I had mentioned, consider getting.

drstewart 3y ago
Get to have != Have to have Tricky for new English learners to see the nuanced difference, admittedly
- lolinder 3y ago
  If the boss is coordinating beers on Friday nights, it's pretty hard not to feel like your career will suffer if you don't participate. This is something bosses need to understand in general—something that you mean to be low-pressure and optional is not going to come across that way to the people whose paycheck depends on your goodwill.
  - Renaud 3y ago
    >If the boss is coordinating beers on Friday nights, it's pretty hard not to feel like your career will suffer if you don't participate. If you are forced to do these things, then your career is already suffering. A career is not a hypothetical future promise of a nirvana-job. It's the thing you live throughout your life, every moment of it.
  - drstewart 3y ago
    So if managers feel threatened they can't see or talk to their employees, they're just bad managers who suck at their job and should all be fired. But if an employee feels threatened that they don't get a beer one in a while that's a crisis that needs to be stopped by forcing everyone to work remotely in isolation. Got it. I'm sure that's your true reasoning and not just some flimsy excuse for wanting to WFH.
    - lolinder 3y ago
      ... I didn't mention WFH once. I can see this thread hasn't gotten less emotionally charged while I've been away.
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avocabros 3y ago
Some people (perhaps a lot, even) are also friends with their coworkers, which seems preferable to working with people you are not friends with.
opmelogy 3y ago
I missed this part but it makes even more sense now. The author only knows how to function like him and expects everyone else to function the same way. It reeks of immaturity and the inability to understand others. This quote pretty much hammered in the last nail in the coffin. He has no idea how to run teams.
- klabb3 3y ago
  > The author only knows how to function like him and expects everyone else to function the same way. Very much so and that’s the big red flag. I’d pick someone with a diametrically opposite preferences and lifestyle to me, over someone who’s judgmental and narrow minded, even if I happen to agree with them at the moment. This post reeks of “there is only one way” mindset, which is particularly ironic given that the domain is innovation.

drstewart 3y ago

Get to have != Have to have Tricky for new English learners to see the nuanced difference, admittedly

lolinder 3y ago
If the boss is coordinating beers on Friday nights, it's pretty hard not to feel like your career will suffer if you don't participate. This is something bosses need to understand in general—something that you mean to be low-pressure and optional is not going to come across that way to the people whose paycheck depends on your goodwill.
- Renaud 3y ago
  >If the boss is coordinating beers on Friday nights, it's pretty hard not to feel like your career will suffer if you don't participate. If you are forced to do these things, then your career is already suffering. A career is not a hypothetical future promise of a nirvana-job. It's the thing you live throughout your life, every moment of it.
- drstewart 3y ago
  So if managers feel threatened they can't see or talk to their employees, they're just bad managers who suck at their job and should all be fired. But if an employee feels threatened that they don't get a beer one in a while that's a crisis that needs to be stopped by forcing everyone to work remotely in isolation. Got it. I'm sure that's your true reasoning and not just some flimsy excuse for wanting to WFH.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    ... I didn't mention WFH once. I can see this thread hasn't gotten less emotionally charged while I've been away.
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avocabros 3y ago

Some people (perhaps a lot, even) are also friends with their coworkers, which seems preferable to working with people you are not friends with.

opmelogy 3y ago

I missed this part but it makes even more sense now. The author only knows how to function like him and expects everyone else to function the same way. It reeks of immaturity and the inability to understand others. This quote pretty much hammered in the last nail in the coffin. He has no idea how to run teams.

klabb3 3y ago
> The author only knows how to function like him and expects everyone else to function the same way. Very much so and that’s the big red flag. I’d pick someone with a diametrically opposite preferences and lifestyle to me, over someone who’s judgmental and narrow minded, even if I happen to agree with them at the moment. This post reeks of “there is only one way” mindset, which is particularly ironic given that the domain is innovation.