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Totally true! Which is why there’s a healthy conservative portion that’s on Reddit, and r/theDonald one of the largest thriving communities there is. Oh wait,

by wincy 3y ago

Totally true! Which is why there’s a healthy conservative portion that’s on Reddit, and r/theDonald one of the largest thriving communities there is. Oh wait, that’s not true at all. These are just empty lies and niceties that don’t stand up to scrutiny. Reddit has weaponized information and is just another tool of propaganda.

renewiltord 3y ago
Sure sure, that's true. The highly controversial subjects Reddit is not good for. I assumed he was talking about something like lawn care or something. It's definitely not the place to go for neutral political organization.
- thebigwinning 3y ago
  A sub dedicated to the candidate who won the election and a plurality of votes in the US is just about as mainstream as it can get.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    When speaking of votes, "plurality" doesn't just mean many. It means the candidate with the most votes. https://www.dictionary.com/e/majority-vs-plurality/ https://www.dictionary.com/e/majority-vs-plurality/ > Plurality is a noun that, like majority, can mean more than half of the whole. However when it comes to voting, plurality refers to “the excess of votes received by the leading candidate, in an election in which there are three or more candidates, over those received by the next candidate.” This means that someone who wins the plurality of votes received more than any of the other candidates but not necessarily the majority. (emphasis stripped by copy-paste) Hillary Clinton won the plurality in 2016, but since this was not a democratic election she was ultimately not elected president. Joe Biden won the plurality (and majority) in 2020. Unless you're talking about the electoral college vote, but I don't see how you can link the word "mainstream" with an electoral college vote, as that is a vote of elites.
  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    The sub was not dedicated to the president. It was dedicated to trolling.
    - thebigwinning 3y ago
      That's easy to test. Is there an alternative sub you can join that is about the president then?
- Auracle 3y ago
  The fact that a subreddit for a Republican political candidate (and then president) is “highly controversial” on Reddit says enough.
  - TulliusCicero 3y ago
    If you think the reason r/theDonald got banned was for having "conservative political opinions" then you're either ignorant of the situation or being intentionally disingenuous.
    - Auracle 3y ago
      Why were they banned? Keep in mind Reddit changed their entire front page algorithm because they weren't happy with r/the_donald getting to the front page as often as it was.
  - bink 3y ago
    Ironically, that sub wasn't banned for supporting a right-wing political candidate but for repeatedly refusing to action content calling for violence against law enforcement.
    - Auracle 3y ago
      Source on the repeatedly refusing part of that? I was no fan of that subreddit but I popped in from time to time and they were ridiculously stringent about adhering to Reddit's rules. Also, it wasn't long after that many, many, many subreddits had far worse calls for violence against law enforcement and none of them got banned for it.
  - renewiltord 3y ago
    Politics is inherently highly controversial, is what I meant. And on forums like this, even a slight majority is enough to suppress the other. After all, think about it: if you have 5000 rabid A voters and 4900 rabid B voters, every pro A comment will be at +100 and every pro B comment will be at -100 even if everyone participates. True approval will be slightly above 49% for B comments but will end up appearing to be massive disapproval. That's a structural problem with additive/subtractive vote counts.
wolongong942 3y ago
Yep Reddit censorship only goes one way. There are tons of subs about white people doing bad things but as soon as someone makes a r/blacksdoing<bad things> it's almost immediately banned. Same goes with questioning trans/LGBT/Women/etc. Sub dedicated to misandry? OK.. your sub is loosely associated with misogyny? banned. What's funny is Elon Twitter reminding me of pre-2016 Reddit because they aren't censoring in an unbiased way.
teh64 3y ago
If you took more than 5 minutes, you would realize there is. There is still askthedonald and conservative, all the subreddits dedicated to people like ben shapiro, conspiracy, the catholic subreddits and politicalcompassmemes. And it's not as if isn't there a lot of right wing and reactionary takes that get upvoted on default subs whenever trans people or minorities are involved. Maybe you don't see it because you believe conservatism consists of spamming slurs and making thinly veiled threats, but there is a very health conservative portion on reddit.
- the_doctah 3y ago
  Delusional. Let me know when any of those subreddits make it to the front page, while I have to endure the absolute propaganda shitshow of /r/whitepeopletwitter plastered all over the front page all day every day.
  - CameronNemo 3y ago
    Boo hoo your political opinions are not popular with the youth.
    - the_doctah 3y ago
      Ignoring the fact that the algorithms are almost certainly tweaked to make this the result, that's also what happens when the youth are systematically indoctrinated. Sad that anyone would cheer any of this.
      - CameronNemo 3y ago
        yeah you are totally a victim of some international cabal to brainwash the youth, not just a relict of a system well past its due date /s
  - teh64 3y ago
    Nice goalpost moving. Also all > filter subreddit on old.reddit to get your echo chamber back.

by wincy 3y ago

renewiltord 3y ago

Sure sure, that's true. The highly controversial subjects Reddit is not good for. I assumed he was talking about something like lawn care or something. It's definitely not the place to go for neutral political organization.

thebigwinning 3y ago
A sub dedicated to the candidate who won the election and a plurality of votes in the US is just about as mainstream as it can get.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  When speaking of votes, "plurality" doesn't just mean many. It means the candidate with the most votes. https://www.dictionary.com/e/majority-vs-plurality/ https://www.dictionary.com/e/majority-vs-plurality/ > Plurality is a noun that, like majority, can mean more than half of the whole. However when it comes to voting, plurality refers to “the excess of votes received by the leading candidate, in an election in which there are three or more candidates, over those received by the next candidate.” This means that someone who wins the plurality of votes received more than any of the other candidates but not necessarily the majority. (emphasis stripped by copy-paste) Hillary Clinton won the plurality in 2016, but since this was not a democratic election she was ultimately not elected president. Joe Biden won the plurality (and majority) in 2020. Unless you're talking about the electoral college vote, but I don't see how you can link the word "mainstream" with an electoral college vote, as that is a vote of elites.
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  The sub was not dedicated to the president. It was dedicated to trolling.
  - thebigwinning 3y ago
    That's easy to test. Is there an alternative sub you can join that is about the president then?
Auracle 3y ago
The fact that a subreddit for a Republican political candidate (and then president) is “highly controversial” on Reddit says enough.
- TulliusCicero 3y ago
  If you think the reason r/theDonald got banned was for having "conservative political opinions" then you're either ignorant of the situation or being intentionally disingenuous.
  - Auracle 3y ago
    Why were they banned? Keep in mind Reddit changed their entire front page algorithm because they weren't happy with r/the_donald getting to the front page as often as it was.
- bink 3y ago
  Ironically, that sub wasn't banned for supporting a right-wing political candidate but for repeatedly refusing to action content calling for violence against law enforcement.
  - Auracle 3y ago
    Source on the repeatedly refusing part of that? I was no fan of that subreddit but I popped in from time to time and they were ridiculously stringent about adhering to Reddit's rules. Also, it wasn't long after that many, many, many subreddits had far worse calls for violence against law enforcement and none of them got banned for it.
- renewiltord 3y ago
  Politics is inherently highly controversial, is what I meant. And on forums like this, even a slight majority is enough to suppress the other. After all, think about it: if you have 5000 rabid A voters and 4900 rabid B voters, every pro A comment will be at +100 and every pro B comment will be at -100 even if everyone participates. True approval will be slightly above 49% for B comments but will end up appearing to be massive disapproval. That's a structural problem with additive/subtractive vote counts.

wolongong942 3y ago

Yep Reddit censorship only goes one way. There are tons of subs about white people doing bad things but as soon as someone makes a r/blacksdoing<bad things> it's almost immediately banned. Same goes with questioning trans/LGBT/Women/etc. Sub dedicated to misandry? OK.. your sub is loosely associated with misogyny? banned. What's funny is Elon Twitter reminding me of pre-2016 Reddit because they aren't censoring in an unbiased way.

teh64 3y ago

If you took more than 5 minutes, you would realize there is. There is still askthedonald and conservative, all the subreddits dedicated to people like ben shapiro, conspiracy, the catholic subreddits and politicalcompassmemes. And it's not as if isn't there a lot of right wing and reactionary takes that get upvoted on default subs whenever trans people or minorities are involved. Maybe you don't see it because you believe conservatism consists of spamming slurs and making thinly veiled threats, but there is a very health conservative portion on reddit.

the_doctah 3y ago
Delusional. Let me know when any of those subreddits make it to the front page, while I have to endure the absolute propaganda shitshow of /r/whitepeopletwitter plastered all over the front page all day every day.
- CameronNemo 3y ago
  Boo hoo your political opinions are not popular with the youth.
  - the_doctah 3y ago
    Ignoring the fact that the algorithms are almost certainly tweaked to make this the result, that's also what happens when the youth are systematically indoctrinated. Sad that anyone would cheer any of this.
    - CameronNemo 3y ago
      yeah you are totally a victim of some international cabal to brainwash the youth, not just a relict of a system well past its due date /s
- teh64 3y ago
  Nice goalpost moving. Also all > filter subreddit on old.reddit to get your echo chamber back.