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Unfortunately Reddit moved past "slippery slope" censorship and went to full on avalanche. "Hate speech" censorship apologists are the worst, by the way.

seattle_spring 3y ago
Sounds like someone is mad that their hate speech got censored.
- the_doctah 3y ago
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  - fugalfervor 3y ago
    Those two insults aren't even consistent with each other.
    - the_doctah 3y ago
      You aren't wrong
threeseed 3y ago
Reddit is a business not a charity. If you want advertisers and be able to operate legally around the world then you need moderation.
- the_doctah 3y ago
  and yet other apps find some way to exist on app stores.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    I'm not an expert on child and snuff porn apps. I just know of examples like Tumblr which were banned for lax moderation.
MattRix 3y ago
Are hate speech censorship apologists really the worst? I consider myself someone who believes hate speech should be censored. I’m pretty sure there are much worse things.
- the_doctah 3y ago
  Why do you think hate speech should be censored? Who decides what constitutes hate speech? Oh look I already discovered the slippery slope.
  - ulrikrasmussen 3y ago
    You can apply that argument to any kind of moderation. The core problem is not that hate speech is censored, the problem is about who is responsible for applying the rules and how these people are selected. Hacker News is also censored and moderated, but it is my impression that the mods are quite carefully selected. On Reddit, the mods are anonymous and external, and are elected in an opaque process which I don't have a good understanding of. I fear that you end up with the catch 22 also seen in homeowner's associations: The people who have the time and dedication to rise to the top in these kinds of organizations are exactly the people you don't want to be in charge.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    > Who decides what constitutes hate speech Governments do. And Reddit being a global site needs to abide by the laws of places like Germany which have specific rules around what content is tolerated.
    - the_doctah 3y ago
      Being held liable for hosting child porn is a little different than banning people for criticizing gender politics.
      - iamacyborg 3y ago
        Maybe being banned is a good signal that you should stop being an arsehole?

seattle_spring 3y ago

Sounds like someone is mad that their hate speech got censored.

the_doctah 3y ago
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- fugalfervor 3y ago
  Those two insults aren't even consistent with each other.
  - the_doctah 3y ago
    You aren't wrong

threeseed 3y ago

Reddit is a business not a charity. If you want advertisers and be able to operate legally around the world then you need moderation.

the_doctah 3y ago
and yet other apps find some way to exist on app stores.
- threeseed 3y ago
  I'm not an expert on child and snuff porn apps. I just know of examples like Tumblr which were banned for lax moderation.

MattRix 3y ago

Are hate speech censorship apologists really the worst? I consider myself someone who believes hate speech should be censored. I’m pretty sure there are much worse things.

the_doctah 3y ago
Why do you think hate speech should be censored? Who decides what constitutes hate speech? Oh look I already discovered the slippery slope.
- ulrikrasmussen 3y ago
  You can apply that argument to any kind of moderation. The core problem is not that hate speech is censored, the problem is about who is responsible for applying the rules and how these people are selected. Hacker News is also censored and moderated, but it is my impression that the mods are quite carefully selected. On Reddit, the mods are anonymous and external, and are elected in an opaque process which I don't have a good understanding of. I fear that you end up with the catch 22 also seen in homeowner's associations: The people who have the time and dedication to rise to the top in these kinds of organizations are exactly the people you don't want to be in charge.
- threeseed 3y ago
  > Who decides what constitutes hate speech Governments do. And Reddit being a global site needs to abide by the laws of places like Germany which have specific rules around what content is tolerated.
  - the_doctah 3y ago
    Being held liable for hosting child porn is a little different than banning people for criticizing gender politics.
    - iamacyborg 3y ago
      Maybe being banned is a good signal that you should stop being an arsehole?