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Nice /s. Regarding "forcing boss hand" you just wrap it in nice words "Hey John! I just got this juicy offer and I don't know what to do! I really love working

by kmac_ 3y ago

Nice /s. Regarding "forcing boss hand" you just wrap it in nice words "Hey John! I just got this juicy offer and I don't know what to do! I really love working with you and I prefer to stay here but they gave me the offer that is hard to reject."

JohnFen 3y ago
Its a question of intent. If I'm going out and getting offers but I'm not really wanting to find another job, I just want the offers to give me leverage in negotiations, that's a bad thing. Even ignoring ethical considerations, in the medium-to-long term it will damage your reputation and reduce your prospects. If nothing else, it's just unprofessional. If I'm looking for another position for real, and mention it to my employer, that's fine. > I really love working with you and I prefer to stay here but they gave me the offer that is hard to reject. I've had people come to me twice with that sort of message. I assumed that they were earnestly looking. For both of them, I told them that they should take the offer. If they were so unhappy working for me that they went to all the trouble to look for another job, and the money alone is enough to sway them, then matching the other offer is not likely to improve their job satisfaction with me. They should go where they're happier.
- kmac_ 3y ago
  Well, every case is different. I had same situations but employees were made happy (money and role are still good motivators), some left sooner, some later but they did the job well in the meantime. In one case I said "go for it" because the position was much better (an employee was telling me about every stage of the recrutation from the beginning, I lost great guy but it was indeed better for him). Generally, I agree to be honest, every single time when I was leaving I wasn't negotiating for a counteroffer. But if somebody wants to stay and have better terms, it's a valid strategy.

by kmac_ 3y ago

JohnFen 3y ago

Its a question of intent. If I'm going out and getting offers but I'm not really wanting to find another job, I just want the offers to give me leverage in negotiations, that's a bad thing. Even ignoring ethical considerations, in the medium-to-long term it will damage your reputation and reduce your prospects. If nothing else, it's just unprofessional. If I'm looking for another position for real, and mention it to my employer, that's fine. > I really love working with you and I prefer to stay here but they gave me the offer that is hard to reject. I've had people come to me twice with that sort of message. I assumed that they were earnestly looking. For both of them, I told them that they should take the offer. If they were so unhappy working for me that they went to all the trouble to look for another job, and the money alone is enough to sway them, then matching the other offer is not likely to improve their job satisfaction with me. They should go where they're happier.

kmac_ 3y ago
Well, every case is different. I had same situations but employees were made happy (money and role are still good motivators), some left sooner, some later but they did the job well in the meantime. In one case I said "go for it" because the position was much better (an employee was telling me about every stage of the recrutation from the beginning, I lost great guy but it was indeed better for him). Generally, I agree to be honest, every single time when I was leaving I wasn't negotiating for a counteroffer. But if somebody wants to stay and have better terms, it's a valid strategy.