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Politicians are mostly corrupt, though degrees vary. Most relevant child abuse was covered by famous politicians¹²³⁴⁵. Nevertheless, the same politicians cut bu

Politicians are mostly corrupt, though degrees vary. Most relevant child abuse was covered by famous politicians¹²³⁴⁵. Nevertheless, the same politicians cut budgets for police to do actual investigation work, because that could harm themselves, then want to cut the last line of defense the public has to do actual investigation and journalism (which requires free speech and privacy) by declaring that this is required to fight pedophilia. We need to do something against this. We really do. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein ² https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336831983_Understanding_Paedophilia_Through_Different_Perspectives https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336831983_Understan... ³ https://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/ https://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horr... ⁴ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux ⁵ https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-...

noduerme 3y ago
My reason to downvote will be: Around half the girls I've met in my life were molested by adults as children, and it wasn't by famous people or politicians. It was by neighbors and family members in the suburbs where they grew up. It's fine to call out hypocrisy in the ruling class that covers up for their own while claiming to be trying to address the problem, but at the end of the day the vast majority of the millions of daily cases of child abuse are taking place right nextdoor or even in the same houses as the people who make a lot of noise about corrupt politicians. I'd even go as far as to say that an obsession with famous child abuse cases is a good indicator of someone who's either committed or thought about committing that sort of crime.
ComodoHacker 3y ago
Politicians are just ambitious people, sharing full spectrum of other traits. Most people would become equally corrupt if presented the opportunity. Being ambitious just amplifies the temptation.
- AnonCoward42 3y ago
  You underestimate the selection pressure. While I agree that many people would become corrupted, the profession (so to speak) attracts certain people. It is even to the point where you need some negative traits (explicitly: skeletons in the closet) to rise up, because it means you're easier to control.
- HeavyStorm 3y ago
  > Most people would become equally corrupt if presented the opportunity Bold claim, without anything to back it up.
joebiden2 3y ago
If you downvote, please at least state a reason. All of the links are reputable and verified. And all of them were covered by famous, reputable politicians.
- 1827163 3y ago
  This powerful "pedophile network" is likely politicians who shopped online at Tesco in the early 2000s and had their credit card numbers used by criminals for fraudulent purposes, and likely got caught up in Operation Ore and falsely accused of having purchased child pornography online. Thousands of people in the UK were raided by police and had their life destroyed over this, and the majority were entirely innocent. At the time the News of the World, a Rupert Murdoch owned tabloid, was stoking the moral panic over pedophiles and creating an atmosphere of fervour over this issue. Maybe other News Corporation owned media worldwide might have started this whole panic around child pornography in the first place, in the early 2000s? With Murdoch seeing the Internet as a large threat to his dominance over the media? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/apr/26/comment.society https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/apr/26/comment.s... https://www.duncancampbell.org/content/operation-ore https://www.duncancampbell.org/content/operation-ore https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_home_office_cover_up_of_the https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_home_office_cover... And rooting out hidden enemies within is typical of what happens during a moral panic. Same with McCarthyism. In reality it's very unlikely that there are pedophile networks within the UK government.
- singleshot_ 3y ago
  Two good reasons to downvote this would be 1) that it's a conspiracy theory and 2) that reading about pedophilia every time one turns on the internet is exhausting.
  - LightHugger 3y ago
    "it's a conspiracy theory" Is not a fact a good reason. Why do conspiracy theories get a bad rap? it's because there's people who think the moon landing isn't real and the earth is flat. These are what jumps to mind when anyone says "conspiracy theory". Here you are using that association to try to cover for corrupt politicians, which is not exactly a very far out there concept.
the_doctah 3y ago
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- iaw 3y ago
  Could you elaborate, in detail, what you mean? I feel like you're verging on a rule violation.
  - the_doctah 3y ago
    Can you elaborate which rule, in detail?
    - iaw 3y ago
      > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.

noduerme 3y ago

My reason to downvote will be: Around half the girls I've met in my life were molested by adults as children, and it wasn't by famous people or politicians. It was by neighbors and family members in the suburbs where they grew up. It's fine to call out hypocrisy in the ruling class that covers up for their own while claiming to be trying to address the problem, but at the end of the day the vast majority of the millions of daily cases of child abuse are taking place right nextdoor or even in the same houses as the people who make a lot of noise about corrupt politicians. I'd even go as far as to say that an obsession with famous child abuse cases is a good indicator of someone who's either committed or thought about committing that sort of crime.

ComodoHacker 3y ago

Politicians are just ambitious people, sharing full spectrum of other traits. Most people would become equally corrupt if presented the opportunity. Being ambitious just amplifies the temptation.

AnonCoward42 3y ago
You underestimate the selection pressure. While I agree that many people would become corrupted, the profession (so to speak) attracts certain people. It is even to the point where you need some negative traits (explicitly: skeletons in the closet) to rise up, because it means you're easier to control.
HeavyStorm 3y ago
> Most people would become equally corrupt if presented the opportunity Bold claim, without anything to back it up.

joebiden2 3y ago

If you downvote, please at least state a reason. All of the links are reputable and verified. And all of them were covered by famous, reputable politicians.

1827163 3y ago
This powerful "pedophile network" is likely politicians who shopped online at Tesco in the early 2000s and had their credit card numbers used by criminals for fraudulent purposes, and likely got caught up in Operation Ore and falsely accused of having purchased child pornography online. Thousands of people in the UK were raided by police and had their life destroyed over this, and the majority were entirely innocent. At the time the News of the World, a Rupert Murdoch owned tabloid, was stoking the moral panic over pedophiles and creating an atmosphere of fervour over this issue. Maybe other News Corporation owned media worldwide might have started this whole panic around child pornography in the first place, in the early 2000s? With Murdoch seeing the Internet as a large threat to his dominance over the media? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/apr/26/comment.society https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/apr/26/comment.s... https://www.duncancampbell.org/content/operation-ore https://www.duncancampbell.org/content/operation-ore https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_home_office_cover_up_of_the https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_home_office_cover... And rooting out hidden enemies within is typical of what happens during a moral panic. Same with McCarthyism. In reality it's very unlikely that there are pedophile networks within the UK government.
singleshot_ 3y ago
Two good reasons to downvote this would be 1) that it's a conspiracy theory and 2) that reading about pedophilia every time one turns on the internet is exhausting.
- LightHugger 3y ago
  "it's a conspiracy theory" Is not a fact a good reason. Why do conspiracy theories get a bad rap? it's because there's people who think the moon landing isn't real and the earth is flat. These are what jumps to mind when anyone says "conspiracy theory". Here you are using that association to try to cover for corrupt politicians, which is not exactly a very far out there concept.

the_doctah 3y ago

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iaw 3y ago
Could you elaborate, in detail, what you mean? I feel like you're verging on a rule violation.
- the_doctah 3y ago
  Can you elaborate which rule, in detail?
  - iaw 3y ago
    > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.