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Ireland to introduce world-first alcohol health labelling policy

15 points by shaicoleman 3y ago

withinboredom 3y ago
Good for them. I was visiting Dublin this past summer. One early morning, I stumbled across a guy having alcohol withdrawal seizures (according to his friend that didn't have a phone, so I called 112 for them). Later that day, I watched a guy pass out drunk in the road. Construction workers came from a nearby site and placed cones around him so he wouldn't get run over. Maybe my experience was abnormal, but it was shocking.
- hydrok9 3y ago
  Not abnormal at all...(was there April/23)
- version_five 3y ago
  Do you belive a warning label would have helped those people?
  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    Do you believe it is more harm than good to require verifiable warnings on dangerous products?
    - arnoooooo 3y ago
      Labels will have a nocebo effect, so that's not unreasonable. They're also guilt inducing.
      - unethical_ban 3y ago
        >They're also guilt inducing That sounds like a personal problem. Informed consumers are the basis of rational market behavior. Even libertarians tend to be on board with objective informational requirements and disclosures.
    - blueskies124 3y ago
      Yes
      - deserialized 3y ago
        I remember warning labels tearing my childhood friends family apart. His dad would come home late at night after reading too many labels and beat his wife while my friend hid in his room. Labels are definitely more harmful
- arp242 3y ago
  > Maybe my experience was abnormal Not really; in my time in Ireland I've seen more of this kind off stuff than all the rest of my life combined. I also know more Irish teetotallers than of any other nationality, which probably isn't a coincidence either.
thewildginger 3y ago
>14.3 litres of pure alcohol a year To get to this amount of alcohol for reference, a pretty standard bottle of spirits is 750 mL and 80 proof, or 40% alcohol by volume. so if you regularly bought a One liter bottle of liquor you would need to drink 35.75 bottles of Jameson a year, or larger, and pricier, 35.75 bottles of Smirnoff. That is the average, and from public health studies I've read in the past alcohol consumption by average has a serious barbell effect altering the average. Personally I have three drinks and think " I should slow down"
- mickdeek86 3y ago
  If you drink three drinks (assuming you mean 3oz) every day, that gets you there per annum. That keeps you in 'Moderate Drinking' per CDC[0] [0]: https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/moderate-drinking.htm https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/moderate-drinking.ht...

15 points by shaicoleman 3y ago

Good for them. I was visiting Dublin this past summer. One early morning, I stumbled across a guy having alcohol withdrawal seizures (according to his friend that didn't have a phone, so I called 112 for them). Later that day, I watched a guy pass out drunk in the road. Construction workers came from a nearby site and placed cones around him so he wouldn't get run over. Maybe my experience was abnormal, but it was shocking.

hydrok9 3y ago
Not abnormal at all...(was there April/23)
version_five 3y ago
Do you belive a warning label would have helped those people?
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  Do you believe it is more harm than good to require verifiable warnings on dangerous products?
  - arnoooooo 3y ago
    Labels will have a nocebo effect, so that's not unreasonable. They're also guilt inducing.
    - unethical_ban 3y ago
      >They're also guilt inducing That sounds like a personal problem. Informed consumers are the basis of rational market behavior. Even libertarians tend to be on board with objective informational requirements and disclosures.
  - blueskies124 3y ago
    Yes
    - deserialized 3y ago
      I remember warning labels tearing my childhood friends family apart. His dad would come home late at night after reading too many labels and beat his wife while my friend hid in his room. Labels are definitely more harmful
arp242 3y ago
> Maybe my experience was abnormal Not really; in my time in Ireland I've seen more of this kind off stuff than all the rest of my life combined. I also know more Irish teetotallers than of any other nationality, which probably isn't a coincidence either.

thewildginger 3y ago

>14.3 litres of pure alcohol a year To get to this amount of alcohol for reference, a pretty standard bottle of spirits is 750 mL and 80 proof, or 40% alcohol by volume. so if you regularly bought a One liter bottle of liquor you would need to drink 35.75 bottles of Jameson a year, or larger, and pricier, 35.75 bottles of Smirnoff. That is the average, and from public health studies I've read in the past alcohol consumption by average has a serious barbell effect altering the average. Personally I have three drinks and think " I should slow down"

mickdeek86 3y ago
If you drink three drinks (assuming you mean 3oz) every day, that gets you there per annum. That keeps you in 'Moderate Drinking' per CDC[0] [0]: https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/moderate-drinking.htm https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/moderate-drinking.ht...