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> she doesn't use race but dermatologist approved Fitzpatrick Skin Type in their analysis as a proxy which of course covers all people including Asians. Erasin

> she doesn't use race but dermatologist approved Fitzpatrick Skin Type in their analysis as a proxy which of course covers all people including Asians. Erasing Asians from stats when convenient has been a staple of the CRT movement for quite some times (when, for example, their existence break down stats "proving" racism against non-whites). The term "white-adjacent" has become one of the dog whistles of the movement.

mempko 3y ago
But that's not what the paper does. Asians have many skin colors from light to very dark (compare China, Korea, and Japan to Thailand, Vietnam, and India). I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I don't see how it erases Asians since Asians are a very diverse group of people in appearance. In regards to CRT, CRT has always included Asians, for example, studying the Chinese Exclusion Act in the US. Many people who criticize CRT (mostly on the right) have no idea what it is. It seems to me that the anti-CRT crowd (mostly right-wing reactionaries) are making shit up to bring down this kind of important research in AI down.
- 908B64B197 3y ago
  > In regards to CRT, CRT has always included Asians Quite the opposite. https://unherd.com/2022/02/anti-racism-betrays-asian-students/ https://unherd.com/2022/02/anti-racism-betrays-asian-student...
  - mempko 3y ago
    That article was about an expensive magnet school where by definition, the kids are privileged. Tuition is $30k per year, or with room/board $50k. https://www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/schools/500658/thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology https://www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/schools/500658/thomas-jef... The demographics of the school are indeed mostly Asian, and 97% of the pupils pay full tuition. Which means you have to be really well off to afford it. https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0 https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO::P0... Is this article really about merit? or is it actually about wealth?

mempko 3y ago

But that's not what the paper does. Asians have many skin colors from light to very dark (compare China, Korea, and Japan to Thailand, Vietnam, and India). I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I don't see how it erases Asians since Asians are a very diverse group of people in appearance. In regards to CRT, CRT has always included Asians, for example, studying the Chinese Exclusion Act in the US. Many people who criticize CRT (mostly on the right) have no idea what it is. It seems to me that the anti-CRT crowd (mostly right-wing reactionaries) are making shit up to bring down this kind of important research in AI down.

908B64B197 3y ago
> In regards to CRT, CRT has always included Asians Quite the opposite. https://unherd.com/2022/02/anti-racism-betrays-asian-students/ https://unherd.com/2022/02/anti-racism-betrays-asian-student...
- mempko 3y ago
  That article was about an expensive magnet school where by definition, the kids are privileged. Tuition is $30k per year, or with room/board $50k. https://www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/schools/500658/thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology https://www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/schools/500658/thomas-jef... The demographics of the school are indeed mostly Asian, and 97% of the pupils pay full tuition. Which means you have to be really well off to afford it. https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0 https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO::P0... Is this article really about merit? or is it actually about wealth?