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I've got no particular interest in V, but the hate it gets from a certain group of people here is really perplexing and I don't think it's at all warranted from

I've got no particular interest in V, but the hate it gets from a certain group of people here is really perplexing and I don't think it's at all warranted from what I've seen.

Tozen 3y ago
I too found it perplexing, and agree it's the right thing to call it out. As you and hu3 noticed, the methodology and continually spamming the same old posts and websites when the language is mentioned is consistent. When looked at as a whole, it comes across as an continual effort by certain parties (and wherever or whenever possible), to bully others for having different preferences or paint a very misleading and negative picture about Vlang (V-lang) for their benefit or purposes. It's odd how obvious slanderous remarks and insults directed at developers (like grifter), in addition to provably false statements (like vaporware) are being pushed about the project (like language is unusable), don't seem to get removed. Somehow, that gets left up. Not just here, but other threads too. Yet, attempts to directly refute or at least push back on the barrage of misinformation about a clearly popular GitHub project get flagged, downvoted, or removed. Don't think that would at all be tolerated if such was done to other open source developers and languages, nor for as long (many years). It isn't right nor is it fair.
hu3 3y ago
Yeah it's weird. They seem to have the same copy-pasted message ready with some old links and whatever they could gather that's more recent. Never fails. As far as I can see V is well placed on TechEmpower so it must be doing something right at least: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21&test=plaintext https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21&tes... Maybe they didn't deliver on all their claims yet, so what? They seem to be trying something cool. Certainly not reason for all the vitrol.
- icholy 3y ago
  The devs burned their reputation by repeated blatant lying.
  - Tozen 3y ago
    Was it the V devs lying, or was it their near competitors and various evangelists continually spreading misinformation and doing constant media/social media attacks?
bheadmaster 3y ago
I've had similar sentiment when I first seen V. However, after a brief and unpleasant conversation with the developer who was extremely defensive against any, even valid, criticism - especially related to the false advertising! - made me change my mind. Alex knows very well what he's doing, he's a grifter who is collecting money off of smoke and mirrors, and his language still hasn't reached any remotely usable state.
- Tozen 3y ago
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avgcorrection 3y ago
A certain set of what?

I've got no particular interest in V, but the hate it gets from a certain group of people here is really perplexing and I don't think it's at all warranted from what I've seen.

Tozen 3y ago

I too found it perplexing, and agree it's the right thing to call it out. As you and hu3 noticed, the methodology and continually spamming the same old posts and websites when the language is mentioned is consistent. When looked at as a whole, it comes across as an continual effort by certain parties (and wherever or whenever possible), to bully others for having different preferences or paint a very misleading and negative picture about Vlang (V-lang) for their benefit or purposes. It's odd how obvious slanderous remarks and insults directed at developers (like grifter), in addition to provably false statements (like vaporware) are being pushed about the project (like language is unusable), don't seem to get removed. Somehow, that gets left up. Not just here, but other threads too. Yet, attempts to directly refute or at least push back on the barrage of misinformation about a clearly popular GitHub project get flagged, downvoted, or removed. Don't think that would at all be tolerated if such was done to other open source developers and languages, nor for as long (many years). It isn't right nor is it fair.

hu3 3y ago

Yeah it's weird. They seem to have the same copy-pasted message ready with some old links and whatever they could gather that's more recent. Never fails. As far as I can see V is well placed on TechEmpower so it must be doing something right at least: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21&test=plaintext https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21&tes... Maybe they didn't deliver on all their claims yet, so what? They seem to be trying something cool. Certainly not reason for all the vitrol.

icholy 3y ago
The devs burned their reputation by repeated blatant lying.
- Tozen 3y ago
  Was it the V devs lying, or was it their near competitors and various evangelists continually spreading misinformation and doing constant media/social media attacks?

bheadmaster 3y ago

I've had similar sentiment when I first seen V. However, after a brief and unpleasant conversation with the developer who was extremely defensive against any, even valid, criticism - especially related to the false advertising! - made me change my mind. Alex knows very well what he's doing, he's a grifter who is collecting money off of smoke and mirrors, and his language still hasn't reached any remotely usable state.

Tozen 3y ago
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- bheadmaster 3y ago
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avgcorrection 3y ago

A certain set of what?