Precisely. Which is also why we need strong E2EE assurances. I heard the argument that physical phone lines have already been prone to interception so banning E

Precisely. Which is also why we need strong E2EE assurances. I heard the argument that physical phone lines have already been prone to interception so banning E2EE (or mandating backdoors) would be similar. The difference is that wiretapping requires a lot of work and is expensive and as such has to be done only for specific cases. Backdooring E2EE means cheap population-level surveillance.