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I'm a little out of the loop as far as electric cars go so I'm using Teslas as a comparison. If you don't have any special equipment in your house and need to

I'm a little out of the loop as far as electric cars go so I'm using Teslas as a comparison. If you don't have any special equipment in your house and need to charge your Tesla you get 2-3 miles of charge for every hour you charge it. In effect you're talking an overnight charge to get anywhere meaningful.[1] If charging times were comparable to filling a tank with gas then yeah I can see how 1000km would be wasteful, but if for instance you wanted to take your electric car camping anywhere interesting, or even make real progress on a road trip, this range starts to make sense. [1] https://www.tesla.com/support/charging https://www.tesla.com/support/charging

mavhc 3y ago
You've not heard of rapid charging? Or even Level 2 charging? For $300 you can charge at 7kW at home, so that's 28 miles per hour. At rapid chargers you can charge at 300kW and easily get 1000 miles per hour
- troyvit 3y ago
  Right, read my post again. I used numbers for regular charging. I did that for 2 reasons. First even though it's only $300 to upgrade to level 2, in many people's cases you'd have to get a second line into your house. That's expensive. Second, I'm not confident that level 2 charging is easily available in the wider world which means you need to plan for a shorter round trip or, again, plug in over-night.
  - mavhc 3y ago
    Who's using regular charging though? Everyone gets a 240V connection, usually about 30 amps, and charges at 7kW at home, adding 224 miles in 8 hours. If you want to go more than the 200-300 miles your car goes, you stop for 15-30 mins to rest while you rapid charge. To quote the page you linked to: The Tesla Supercharger is the fastest charging option when you're away from home, allowing you to charge your car up to 200 miles in 15 minutes. and A Tesla Wall Connector offers the fastest charging speed for your home or office, adding up to 44 miles of range per hour charged
    - troyvit 3y ago
      Honestly the expense of getting a second electric line into the house is one of the two things that's stopping me from replacing my gas-powered car when I give it to my daughter. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person in that situation. Maybe when the rapid charging infrastructure is well-established what you describe will happen. One thing I believe though is that when cars with a 1k KM range hit the market it's going to make cars with a lower range less expensive and that will make everything you say easier for people to swallow.
      - mavhc 3y ago
        Why do you need a second electric line? What's the existing one rated for?

mavhc 3y ago

You've not heard of rapid charging? Or even Level 2 charging? For $300 you can charge at 7kW at home, so that's 28 miles per hour. At rapid chargers you can charge at 300kW and easily get 1000 miles per hour

troyvit 3y ago
Right, read my post again. I used numbers for regular charging. I did that for 2 reasons. First even though it's only $300 to upgrade to level 2, in many people's cases you'd have to get a second line into your house. That's expensive. Second, I'm not confident that level 2 charging is easily available in the wider world which means you need to plan for a shorter round trip or, again, plug in over-night.
- mavhc 3y ago
  Who's using regular charging though? Everyone gets a 240V connection, usually about 30 amps, and charges at 7kW at home, adding 224 miles in 8 hours. If you want to go more than the 200-300 miles your car goes, you stop for 15-30 mins to rest while you rapid charge. To quote the page you linked to: The Tesla Supercharger is the fastest charging option when you're away from home, allowing you to charge your car up to 200 miles in 15 minutes. and A Tesla Wall Connector offers the fastest charging speed for your home or office, adding up to 44 miles of range per hour charged
  - troyvit 3y ago
    Honestly the expense of getting a second electric line into the house is one of the two things that's stopping me from replacing my gas-powered car when I give it to my daughter. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person in that situation. Maybe when the rapid charging infrastructure is well-established what you describe will happen. One thing I believe though is that when cars with a 1k KM range hit the market it's going to make cars with a lower range less expensive and that will make everything you say easier for people to swallow.
    - mavhc 3y ago
      Why do you need a second electric line? What's the existing one rated for?