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Anthropic arguments frustrate me to no end. 1.) "Life as we know it" is an extremely important phrase. Ask a biologist what life is, and she will probably say
by sciolizer 18y ago
Anthropic arguments frustrate me to no end.
1.) "Life as we know it" is an extremely important phrase. Ask a biologist what life is, and she will probably say something about cells and DNA. It is possible for other self-replicating combinations of molecules to exist, but not on Earth, because the Cell/DNA model has become so effective at wiping the competition out. It's actually really hard to come to a solid definition of what "life" is, but if you make it sufficiently broad, I suspect you could find life even in some universes where the fundamental constants differ significantly from ours.
2.) We have no idea what determines the fundamental constants. You cannot talk about the "odds" of having a universe like ours until you know the probability distributions for each of the fundamental constants. Look at the H2O on Earth, and you will find that a significant portion of it occurs at 0C and 100C. Of course that is not a coincidence - water often exists at those temperatures because energy is spent on converting state, not on altering temperature. It's an equilibrium point. So likewise, it's POSSIBLE that the fundamental constants (of multiple universes, if they exist) interact in ways that cause them to arrive at equilibrium points. One really fascinating theory promoting this idea (and any theory is as good as the next, since we have very little empirical evidence available to us) is Lee Smolin's argument that the singularities within blackholes are themselves universe phases. Thus, a kind of "natural selection" of black holes occurs, which leads to more and more universes with fundamental constants ideal for producing black holes (and thus close to the constants necessary for life).
3.) The anthropic principle is just way too convenient, and I fear it de-motivates scientists from looking deeper into issues that really need explaining. Roger Penrose argues that there is a surprising lack of parsimony on behalf of whatever forces (spiritual or natural) brought about our universe. While our universe appears to have inflated from an initial region with a phase-space-volume of 10^(10^123), it would have been more than sufficient to create a life-supporting universe (several! in fact) from a region with only a phase-space-volume of 10^(10^117). Additionally, Penrose points out that the odds of creating an exact duplicate of our solar system from the random coming together of gas and radiation (no Darwinian evolution necessary!) is only 1 in 10^(10^60). (Penrose calls it "utter chicken feed" compared to the odds of the Big Bang producing ANY universe of our size). So even when you invoke the anthropic principle, the question still remains - why is our (life-supporting) universe so large and so old, when we could have done with so much less?
- gaius 18y agoThe anthropic principle is just way too convenient, and I fear it de-motivates scientists from looking deeper into issues that really need explaining. This I must take issue with. The anthropic principle is what drove the Renaissance. It's what motivated people like Sir Isaac Newton to better understand the universe, they believed that this was the way to get closer to God. The anthropic principle is responsible for the single biggest leap in science in the history of mankind. Saying "God created it" doesn't excuse anyone from anything; you still need to work on it, in fact the good Christian has no excuse not to.
- sciolizer 18y agoThe anthropic principle did not drive the Renaissance. The scientific revolution within the Renaissance was driven by a rediscovery of Greek/Arabic knowledge, the focus on empirical evidence that came with the invention of the scientific method, and the (yet-to-be-formalized) desire to apply Occam's razor to every explanation. The anthropic principle is dual to Creationism. The Creationist says, "It is because God made it so." The scientist says, "It is because it necessarily must be so." Neither philosophy, by itself, leads to deeper understanding.
- crabapple 18y agoindeed. the article seems to be asking a false question - "just how did we get so lucky!?!?!" which seems ridiculous, and as you point out, presumes that a universe that produces us is more optimal than one that doesn't.
- astine 18y agoWell, It's more optimal for us.