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The guy who refers to the Pride flag as "the flag of a hostile enemy?" No thanks.

by shadowgovt 3y ago

the_third_wave 3y ago
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- shadowgovt 3y ago
  If there's one thing the Internet has taught us, it's that some first-pass filtering is necessary to function in the modern world of unfettered information access. It doesn't take much looking into the person running the site to know the site's going to be well-researched (in the sense that it dives deeply on one viewpoint and disregards others) well-crafted (in the sense it possesses some modicum of capability wielding the English language, a property some confuse for a correct argument) one-sided content that will mislead a reader who takes it as fact. The ad hominem attack was a fallacy(1) in the days where debate was a nice, orderly thing among an intellectual elite in a salon. In the modern world, it's necessary to defend the listener against a gish-gallop attack of people who try and craft reality by volume. (1) technically, it should also be noted that the purpose of the formal rules of argumentation was to teach its students how to win arguments, not seek truth. In that regard, of course excluding the fact your opponent is arguing for, in the case of James Lindsay, white genocide is beneficial because it gives one a chance at winning the argument where none should be given.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > Also realise that the "pride flag" represents only a small vocal minority of those who it claims to represent, that many of those it purports to represent do not agree It's not the stars-and-bars, for christssake. The rainbow flag has always just been a "pride" flag. Even if you want to be reductive about it, it wasn't designed with anything other than gayness in mind. If you see that as the flag of your enemy, you're saying more about yourself than the state of US identity politics. I've had to play the "queer moderate" role on this site more times than I'd care to admit, but your perspective on this topic completely confuses me. You're mad that... queer progressives are now too queer and progressive? Literally your last three comments have been about mocking a "mindset that shall not be named" for crimes that are substantiated on nothing other than racism and presupposed conflict. The irony is suffocating your point here, but I'd still like to hear your itemized list of complaints about this enemy host that rallies under the rainbow flag.

The guy who refers to the Pride flag as "the flag of a hostile enemy?" No thanks.

the_third_wave 3y ago

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shadowgovt 3y ago
If there's one thing the Internet has taught us, it's that some first-pass filtering is necessary to function in the modern world of unfettered information access. It doesn't take much looking into the person running the site to know the site's going to be well-researched (in the sense that it dives deeply on one viewpoint and disregards others) well-crafted (in the sense it possesses some modicum of capability wielding the English language, a property some confuse for a correct argument) one-sided content that will mislead a reader who takes it as fact. The ad hominem attack was a fallacy(1) in the days where debate was a nice, orderly thing among an intellectual elite in a salon. In the modern world, it's necessary to defend the listener against a gish-gallop attack of people who try and craft reality by volume. (1) technically, it should also be noted that the purpose of the formal rules of argumentation was to teach its students how to win arguments, not seek truth. In that regard, of course excluding the fact your opponent is arguing for, in the case of James Lindsay, white genocide is beneficial because it gives one a chance at winning the argument where none should be given.
smoldesu 3y ago
> Also realise that the "pride flag" represents only a small vocal minority of those who it claims to represent, that many of those it purports to represent do not agree It's not the stars-and-bars, for christssake. The rainbow flag has always just been a "pride" flag. Even if you want to be reductive about it, it wasn't designed with anything other than gayness in mind. If you see that as the flag of your enemy, you're saying more about yourself than the state of US identity politics. I've had to play the "queer moderate" role on this site more times than I'd care to admit, but your perspective on this topic completely confuses me. You're mad that... queer progressives are now too queer and progressive? Literally your last three comments have been about mocking a "mindset that shall not be named" for crimes that are substantiated on nothing other than racism and presupposed conflict. The irony is suffocating your point here, but I'd still like to hear your itemized list of complaints about this enemy host that rallies under the rainbow flag.