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Well looking the amazon (UK): https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-OfficeJet-colour-printer-Instant/dp/B08YR3S7BH?th=1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-OfficeJet-colour-print

by jackdh 3y ago

Well looking the amazon (UK): https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-OfficeJet-colour-printer-Instant/dp/B08YR3S7BH?th=1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-OfficeJet-colour-printer-Instant... It's not that obvious at all, actually even under their question section they state the subscription is not required: - Does an HP+ Printer require a subscription to the Instant Ink service or rother ongoing costs? "No, there are no additional costs associated with HP+. You can choose to enroll in an optional subscription for Instant Ink and receive 6 months subscription, but it is not required."

PaulCarrack 3y ago
Okay, that is garbage... I don't know what to say other than to also look at Amazon reviews... But yes, totally misleading and you would never know until you get the printer in hand and purchase the subscription.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
  You can load non subscription inks into the printer just fine.
- zyx321 3y ago
  It depends on the cartridge. If you buy the subscription, you get special subscription cartridges that will stop working if you cancel, but they are included in the subscription price. If you buy normal cartridges, they will work until they are empty. If you paid money for a cartridge that doesn't work without a subscription, you got scammed by the seller, not by HP.
the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
You can load normal cartridges into that printer. You cannot get a subscription cartridge and keep using it after you cancelled the subscription.
- jackdh 3y ago
  That's understandable I guess, however I wouldn't say it is clear. Especially should the purchaser be someone not tech orientated.
  - the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
    I own such an HP printer and it seemed quite obvious from the on-screen instructions.
    - jackdh 3y ago
      I'm sure in person it is, however my original point is it's not clear from the amazon link.
      - the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
        That might very well be, but the _on printer_ experience is pretty obvious I have to say. It even clearly explains what features are available / unavailable if you use non HP cartridges.
mynameisvlad 3y ago
HP+ is different than Instant Ink. HP+ is required to use the printer, but does not cost money. Instant Ink is an optional subscription, which they plainly state, and that costs money.
- DannyBee 3y ago
  It says HP+ is optional in a lot of places too. It is marked as HP+ eligible. It states that HP+ is chosen or not at setup (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71OZXjots2S._AC_SX679_.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71OZXjots2S._AC_SX679_.j...) In the requirements it says: "The optional cloud - connected HP+ printing system requires an HP account, ongoing internet connection, and use of Original HP Ink Cartridges for the life of the printer." etc I don't buy inkjets anyway because they aren't worth it over color laser printers, but i will say trying to understand any of this seems hard at a glance.

by jackdh 3y ago

PaulCarrack 3y ago

Okay, that is garbage... I don't know what to say other than to also look at Amazon reviews... But yes, totally misleading and you would never know until you get the printer in hand and purchase the subscription.

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
You can load non subscription inks into the printer just fine.
zyx321 3y ago
It depends on the cartridge. If you buy the subscription, you get special subscription cartridges that will stop working if you cancel, but they are included in the subscription price. If you buy normal cartridges, they will work until they are empty. If you paid money for a cartridge that doesn't work without a subscription, you got scammed by the seller, not by HP.

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago

You can load normal cartridges into that printer. You cannot get a subscription cartridge and keep using it after you cancelled the subscription.

jackdh 3y ago
That's understandable I guess, however I wouldn't say it is clear. Especially should the purchaser be someone not tech orientated.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
  I own such an HP printer and it seemed quite obvious from the on-screen instructions.
  - jackdh 3y ago
    I'm sure in person it is, however my original point is it's not clear from the amazon link.
    - the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
      That might very well be, but the _on printer_ experience is pretty obvious I have to say. It even clearly explains what features are available / unavailable if you use non HP cartridges.

mynameisvlad 3y ago

HP+ is different than Instant Ink. HP+ is required to use the printer, but does not cost money. Instant Ink is an optional subscription, which they plainly state, and that costs money.

DannyBee 3y ago
It says HP+ is optional in a lot of places too. It is marked as HP+ eligible. It states that HP+ is chosen or not at setup (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71OZXjots2S._AC_SX679_.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71OZXjots2S._AC_SX679_.j...) In the requirements it says: "The optional cloud - connected HP+ printing system requires an HP account, ongoing internet connection, and use of Original HP Ink Cartridges for the life of the printer." etc I don't buy inkjets anyway because they aren't worth it over color laser printers, but i will say trying to understand any of this seems hard at a glance.