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> The term has been used to call out white women who act racist in public. Wow, that's a pretty dishonest way to defend Uber by implying that this is term is o

> The term has been used to call out white women who act racist in public. Wow, that's a pretty dishonest way to defend Uber by implying that this is term is only (or even mainly) used to point out racism. People should be ashamed of this revisionist nonsense, but that's too much to expect.

shadowgovt 3y ago
How is the term mainly used?
- batch12 3y ago
  The sibling comment's response is a good answer to this if you don't actually know. If this is true, I envy your detachment from hateful discourse.
croes 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)#Racial_context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)#Racial_context
- prepend 3y ago
  This is not the main usage. Entitled people in general are entitled about everything. Most Karen memes I see are about wanting to talk to a manager over some perceived slight like not enough croutons on their $18 salad. That Karen’s also do racist stuff is not the main point of karening.
  - shadowgovt 3y ago
    Ah, but you may have overlooked the intersection of racism and classism in the United States. It's not shown in the memes, but the person Karen is screaming at in those memes is usually not white.
    - prepend 3y ago
      I didn’t overlook, I disagree it’s relevant here. The don’t think the color of the person Karen is screaming at is the important part. The important part is that Karen is entitled and is upset that things aren’t the way she likes. I don’t track my meme views, but I expect I’ve seen the meme thousands of times and experienced Karen IRL dozens of times and it’s usually directed toward a person of the same race. For IRL I think it depends on where it occurs (ie, Karens in white areas are more likely to scream at whites). This is pretty minor, but I think it’s important to accurately assign racism where it exists. If everything is racist, then it’s not as important and it’s harder to differentiate racism that is a much higher priority to stop.
    - chucksta 3y ago
      How in the world do you know what color they are if they aren't shown. Hell of a leap
    - George83728 3y ago
      > the person Karen is screaming at in those memes is usually not white. That seems like an extremely dubious claim. Do you have any racial statistics for customer-facing service sector workers to back that up? In my experience, businesses in most American communities tend to hire young relatively attractive white people for these roles (there is an ageism and racism angle to their hiring, but that's beyond the point being discussed here.)
  - croes 3y ago
    Maybe you aren't up to date with your memes. https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/ https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/karen-race-white-women-black-americans-racism https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/karen-race-whi... https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/891177904/whats-in-a-karen https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/891177904/whats-in-a-karen

shadowgovt 3y ago

How is the term mainly used?

batch12 3y ago
The sibling comment's response is a good answer to this if you don't actually know. If this is true, I envy your detachment from hateful discourse.

croes 3y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)#Racial_context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)#Racial_context

prepend 3y ago
This is not the main usage. Entitled people in general are entitled about everything. Most Karen memes I see are about wanting to talk to a manager over some perceived slight like not enough croutons on their $18 salad. That Karen’s also do racist stuff is not the main point of karening.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  Ah, but you may have overlooked the intersection of racism and classism in the United States. It's not shown in the memes, but the person Karen is screaming at in those memes is usually not white.
  - prepend 3y ago
    I didn’t overlook, I disagree it’s relevant here. The don’t think the color of the person Karen is screaming at is the important part. The important part is that Karen is entitled and is upset that things aren’t the way she likes. I don’t track my meme views, but I expect I’ve seen the meme thousands of times and experienced Karen IRL dozens of times and it’s usually directed toward a person of the same race. For IRL I think it depends on where it occurs (ie, Karens in white areas are more likely to scream at whites). This is pretty minor, but I think it’s important to accurately assign racism where it exists. If everything is racist, then it’s not as important and it’s harder to differentiate racism that is a much higher priority to stop.
  - chucksta 3y ago
    How in the world do you know what color they are if they aren't shown. Hell of a leap
  - George83728 3y ago
    > the person Karen is screaming at in those memes is usually not white. That seems like an extremely dubious claim. Do you have any racial statistics for customer-facing service sector workers to back that up? In my experience, businesses in most American communities tend to hire young relatively attractive white people for these roles (there is an ageism and racism angle to their hiring, but that's beyond the point being discussed here.)
- croes 3y ago
  Maybe you aren't up to date with your memes. https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/ https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/karen-race-white-women-black-americans-racism https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/karen-race-whi... https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/891177904/whats-in-a-karen https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/891177904/whats-in-a-karen