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I don’t really follow you. This roughly implies everyone is addicted to their jobs…

by nawgz 3y ago

arealaccount 3y ago
Or more like the paycheck is an enabler for an unhealthy escape
- nawgz 3y ago
  Seems like an extremely unrealistic representation of people's motivations to work, to me.
- johannes1234321 3y ago
  There is a group who focusses on the paycheck. In my experience they often aren't the better ones. For many there however is also some intrinsic motivation in doing something "worthwhile" or "challenging" For me money is a necessity, but not the goal. I could do jobs I care less about for more money (which of course makes my boss happy, that I don't change)
tambourine_man 3y ago
Most people are. Even stuff you might not like, such as pressure, can be addictive. I know I’ve felt “withdraw” symptoms on extended holidays after intense work sprints. And I consider myself a lazy bastard.
- nawgz 3y ago
  Haha, I don't think you should try to generalize your emotions - "withdrawal" symptoms on vacation could easily just be your stressed out body finally resting, or one of many other emotions. None of what you have said tracks for me. I can shut off work in a minute and I feel glorious when I do it; it's purely a practical thing. I will stop the minute I can, which I seem to be about 30% of the way to
  - tambourine_man 3y ago
    Not generalizing my emotions, there’s even a term for it: workaholic. It’s a thing. You may not experience it, but your “I can stop whenever I want” kind of phrase doesn’t help you make your point.
    - nawgz 3y ago
      This whole conversation is a ridiculous stretch - you just misquoted me to imply I’m a workaholic, and implied everyone else is too. Enough.
      - tambourine_man 3y ago
        I think I might have hit a nerve. Not my intention, sorry.
        nawgz 3y ago
        Let me be crystal clear: most people fucking hate working. Bosses are the worst, the money is the sole reason to do it, and we’d all be happier working way less. The idea people are “addicted” to working under a capitalist society is absurd; we are forced like prisoners, not free to make the choice ourselves. Or maybe you consider being unhoused and underfed “freedom”. The “nerve” you’ve hit is that I hate people excusing our disgusting lack of free time in a post scarcity society. Enjoy your job though, prick
        badpun 3y ago
        Most people work way more than they need. No one needs a six figures salary for 30 years straight. People just get addicted to the nice, non-necessary things, they can get on such income though. This, and their taste for anything other than working slightly withers away (as it's not practiced, due to lack of time).
        nawgz 3y ago

I don’t really follow you. This roughly implies everyone is addicted to their jobs…

by nawgz 3y ago

I don’t really follow you. This roughly implies everyone is addicted to their jobs…

arealaccount 3y ago

Or more like the paycheck is an enabler for an unhealthy escape

nawgz 3y ago
Seems like an extremely unrealistic representation of people's motivations to work, to me.
johannes1234321 3y ago
There is a group who focusses on the paycheck. In my experience they often aren't the better ones. For many there however is also some intrinsic motivation in doing something "worthwhile" or "challenging" For me money is a necessity, but not the goal. I could do jobs I care less about for more money (which of course makes my boss happy, that I don't change)

tambourine_man 3y ago

Most people are. Even stuff you might not like, such as pressure, can be addictive. I know I’ve felt “withdraw” symptoms on extended holidays after intense work sprints. And I consider myself a lazy bastard.

nawgz 3y ago
Haha, I don't think you should try to generalize your emotions - "withdrawal" symptoms on vacation could easily just be your stressed out body finally resting, or one of many other emotions. None of what you have said tracks for me. I can shut off work in a minute and I feel glorious when I do it; it's purely a practical thing. I will stop the minute I can, which I seem to be about 30% of the way to
- tambourine_man 3y ago
  Not generalizing my emotions, there’s even a term for it: workaholic. It’s a thing. You may not experience it, but your “I can stop whenever I want” kind of phrase doesn’t help you make your point.
  - nawgz 3y ago
    This whole conversation is a ridiculous stretch - you just misquoted me to imply I’m a workaholic, and implied everyone else is too. Enough.
    - tambourine_man 3y ago
      I think I might have hit a nerve. Not my intention, sorry.
      - nawgz 3y ago
        Let me be crystal clear: most people fucking hate working. Bosses are the worst, the money is the sole reason to do it, and we’d all be happier working way less. The idea people are “addicted” to working under a capitalist society is absurd; we are forced like prisoners, not free to make the choice ourselves. Or maybe you consider being unhoused and underfed “freedom”. The “nerve” you’ve hit is that I hate people excusing our disgusting lack of free time in a post scarcity society. Enjoy your job though, prick
        badpun 3y ago
        Most people work way more than they need. No one needs a six figures salary for 30 years straight. People just get addicted to the nice, non-necessary things, they can get on such income though. This, and their taste for anything other than working slightly withers away (as it's not practiced, due to lack of time).
        nawgz 3y ago