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Yes, as a thought experiment, maybe we should prosecute those who purchase eggs, even free range ones, from so called 'ethical' farms, for animal abuse? Each h
by 1827163 3y ago
Yes, as a thought experiment, maybe we should prosecute those who purchase eggs, even free range ones, from so called 'ethical' farms, for animal abuse? Each hen lays 600 eggs in its lifespan [1]. For every hen there was a male chick that was shredded alive in a macerator in the hatchery [2,3].
The link between abuse and consumption is concrete in this case. Buying more eggs requires the farm to raise more hens, which causes more male chicks to be shredded. There is a direct supplier and customer here, and money is clearly transferred.
So the average person consumes 277 eggs per year [4], that means approximately every 2 years, we all shred a male chick alive, by proxy. And by using the same argument as for the illegal pornography, we should be going to jail for animal abuse?
1. https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/chickens-101/how-long-do-chickens-lay-eggs-breeds-that-go-the-extra-mile/ https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/chickens-101/how-...
2. https://thehumaneleague.org.uk/article/what-happens-to-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry https://thehumaneleague.org.uk/article/what-happens-to-male-...
3. https://demeter.net/chick-culling/ https://demeter.net/chick-culling/
4. https://www.statista.com/statistics/183678/per-capita-consumption-of-eggs-in-the-us-since-2000/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/183678/per-capita-consum...
With illegal pornography, which is information, and can be copied effortlessly at zero cost, and when no money is transferred, the link between consumption and abuse is much less clear. In fact most of those images are distributed for free, so I guess it's pirated illegal pornography that people are viewing then? That hardly makes a direct case for increasing the production of such images?
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoI think in general some externalities should be banned at the source, i.e macerating male chicks en masse should just be illegal(I'm not a huge animal rights person in general, but this one seems clear cut to me). Whereas others that can't just stop overnight(say carbon emissions) should be taxed at the source to phase them out naturally over time. I think prosecuting the consumer directly is too much of a slippery slope to go down. Because like it or not almost everything we do in modern society has some pretty nasty externalities attached that are also so far removed from the consumer that they can't reasonably be expected to factor it into their decisions.