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Firefox is lagging behind on a lot of the more esoteric web APIs. I think it's a choice by the Firefox team, and a valid one given the effort required, Mozilla'

Firefox is lagging behind on a lot of the more esoteric web APIs. I think it's a choice by the Firefox team, and a valid one given the effort required, Mozilla's relatively limited resources, and how few devs actually want or need these APIs. Firefox is more like a "website viewer" than a "web app host" like Chrome and Safari. I think that's what a lot of Firefox users want, and why they choose that browser. It might even be useful to differentiate between them instead of calling everything a 'web browser' in the future. To that end I don't think it's a fair criticism of web app developers or Firefox that apps like this don't work in your browser.

pfg_ 3y ago
The specs that firefox chooses not to implement are stuff like web midi for security concerns. Firefox does not try to market itself as a "website viewer" that does not support "web apps"
- jacquesm 3y ago
  You must have missed the announcement. Firefox now supports web midi, their security concerns where BS all along anyway.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    I can't speak on the specific details of web midi, but after the spate of poorly designed browser features with intrinsic security vulnerabilities (eg canvas fingerprinting), it's reasonable to be wary of things coming down the pipeline.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      That always makes good sense. I think Chrome got this one right though, have a reasonable protection against abuse and trust that the end user is capable of weighing the risks.
  - illiarian 3y ago
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  - aragilar 3y ago
    Really, there isn't an issue around fingerprinting? https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931 https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      The issue around fingerprinting is secondary because it isn't a security issue but a privacy issue, and this is a problem anyway for which there isn't a really good technical solution. The security issues that were mentioned (someone bricking synths on purpose via SysEx messages) has afaik never actually happened.

pfg_ 3y ago

The specs that firefox chooses not to implement are stuff like web midi for security concerns. Firefox does not try to market itself as a "website viewer" that does not support "web apps"

jacquesm 3y ago
You must have missed the announcement. Firefox now supports web midi, their security concerns where BS all along anyway.
- mindslight 3y ago
  I can't speak on the specific details of web midi, but after the spate of poorly designed browser features with intrinsic security vulnerabilities (eg canvas fingerprinting), it's reasonable to be wary of things coming down the pipeline.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    That always makes good sense. I think Chrome got this one right though, have a reasonable protection against abuse and trust that the end user is capable of weighing the risks.
- illiarian 3y ago
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- aragilar 3y ago
  Really, there isn't an issue around fingerprinting? https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931 https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    The issue around fingerprinting is secondary because it isn't a security issue but a privacy issue, and this is a problem anyway for which there isn't a really good technical solution. The security issues that were mentioned (someone bricking synths on purpose via SysEx messages) has afaik never actually happened.