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> Which one do you think is preferred, cooking in the kitchen and wearing a headset, or propping your iPhone up and FaceTiming while cooking? That's amusing, s

> Which one do you think is preferred, cooking in the kitchen and wearing a headset, or propping your iPhone up and FaceTiming while cooking? That's amusing, since wearing the headset while doing physical tasks on factory floors was the exact use case Microsoft pushed for Hololens 2. > Microsoft’s HoloLens 2: a $3,500 mixed reality headset for the factory https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/24/18235460/microsoft-hololens-2-price-specs-mixed-reality-ar-vr-business-work-features-mwc-2019 https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/24/18235460/microsoft-holole...

anonymouse008 3y ago
Yeah I was there for those (edit: similar I mean, different context) conversations with H1 - the goal is better human contextual awareness on the factory floor - the amount of things that need to be 'newly explained' on the floor should be 0. This negates this whole AR/VR 'support staff / training' spatial context. It's like cycling with training wheels after you've been riding for 20 years... it makes no sense. (we this found out with GM doing a pilot) [Edit] to keep it going, external cameras are how you verify parts are picked correctly and put in the right place - you don't need FPV for that to be verified either. [Edit 2] Until a flight simulator uses VR and AR headsets as primary training, this stuff just doesn’t make sense. CAE has definitely explored with this but it’s not what they reach for
smoldesu 3y ago
> wearing the headset while doing physical tasks on factory floors was the exact use case Microsoft pushed for Hololens 2. And how'd that work out, commercially?
- GeekyBear 3y ago
  About as well as any recent Microsoft or Google product that was abandoned when it didn't prove to be an instant success instead of continuously iterating on it and improving it year after year?
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Shocker. Let's try it with unibody aluminum, Corinthian leather and a price that's dwarfs your smartphone instead of the other way around. It's the Lisa vs the Apple II all over again. If only they had the courage left to send this project the way of the headphone jack.

anonymouse008 3y ago

Yeah I was there for those (edit: similar I mean, different context) conversations with H1 - the goal is better human contextual awareness on the factory floor - the amount of things that need to be 'newly explained' on the floor should be 0. This negates this whole AR/VR 'support staff / training' spatial context. It's like cycling with training wheels after you've been riding for 20 years... it makes no sense. (we this found out with GM doing a pilot) [Edit] to keep it going, external cameras are how you verify parts are picked correctly and put in the right place - you don't need FPV for that to be verified either. [Edit 2] Until a flight simulator uses VR and AR headsets as primary training, this stuff just doesn’t make sense. CAE has definitely explored with this but it’s not what they reach for

smoldesu 3y ago

> wearing the headset while doing physical tasks on factory floors was the exact use case Microsoft pushed for Hololens 2. And how'd that work out, commercially?

GeekyBear 3y ago
About as well as any recent Microsoft or Google product that was abandoned when it didn't prove to be an instant success instead of continuously iterating on it and improving it year after year?
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Shocker. Let's try it with unibody aluminum, Corinthian leather and a price that's dwarfs your smartphone instead of the other way around. It's the Lisa vs the Apple II all over again. If only they had the courage left to send this project the way of the headphone jack.