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Epstein Appeared to Threaten Bill Gates over Affair

25 points by monero-xmr 3y ago

VagueMag 3y ago
> trying to set up a philanthropic fund that he hoped would include the billionaire as an anchor donor haha yes, I'm sure this was the sum total of the influence Epstein was exerting.
leobg 3y ago
https://archive.is/Eb79S https://archive.is/Eb79S
hgsgm 3y ago
The article says nothing about any affair except that unnamed people said that Epstein unsuccessfully applied pressure based on a threat to expose an affair. No evidence about dates or location of affair are presented. Extreme hearsay.
- VagueMag 3y ago
  How would we know if Epstein had been successful?
sieongioetnio 3y ago
I don't understand why Gates would care. He was well known within Microsoft and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for constantly going after female subordinates. Why would this one affair be the straw that broke the camel's back? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce-epstein.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gat...
- rand85632 3y ago
  Why would an affair linked to a known pedophile pimp be different than going after subordinates? Your guess is as good as mine. (To be clear, Epstein was in fact a known pedophile pimp at this point in time)
  - sieongioetnio 3y ago
    How is the affair "linked" to Epstein? As far as I can tell, Epstein merely learned of it and tried to use it as leverage. Besides, how could Epstein use his own crimes to blackmail someone? If he did somehow procure this woman for Gates, he couldn't reveal that fact without revealing himself as a sex trafficker. That would be a suicide bombing at best.
    - m348e912 3y ago
      My theory, it's a leak from gates himself to help distance himself from Epstein and position himself as a victim. Most don't care about his past relationships and the one who probably did the most divorced him. He had little to lose and some to gain from this getting out.
JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
So much has been said about this guy as he was playing some 5-D chess with Govt. , CIA, NSA, Wall Street and Silicon Valley. In reality he was just trying to make money by doing as little real work he possibly could and his preferred tactic was to either become a provider of vices for people richer than him or failing that investigate a billionaire life in order to uncover something and use it as a blackmail weapon. And all the stuff that emerged up to now indicate that he managed to get in the proximity but never quite made it to the big leagues or score a big blackmail payment. Because at the end of the day billionaires are not politicians, they don't care about their reputation and they never did. So maybe only Bill Clinton paid him some millions.
- belter 3y ago
  How would you know? Harvard University got $6.5 million in 2003 from Epstein. He had assets in the hundreds of millions of dollars, when a few years before was just a college math professor on a meager salary. He presented himself as having made the money on Wall Street, but there is no single forensic track of anybody in Wall Street ever trading with him.
- VagueMag 3y ago
  Have you even seen how much money Les Wexner alone gifted to Epstein, on top of the [checks notes] largest townhouse in Manhattan?
  - latchkey 3y ago
    It wasn't just gifts... Epstein managed his money!
VagueMag 3y ago
> “Our documents show that Mr. Gates met with Norwegian officials to discuss the security situation in Afghanistan as part of Mr. Gates’ work on polio eradication,” said the Gates spokeswoman. “Mr. Gates has never been focused on or campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize, or any other prize.” Jagland didn’t respond to requests for comment. He has previously said the prize wasn’t a topic for discussion during the Strasbourg meeting. That's interesting, this seems to have been not long after the CIA was caught using the polio vaccines to gather DNA in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
- Dudelander 3y ago
  How is that in any way interesting? You conspiracy nuts will draw connections anywhere.
  - VagueMag 3y ago
    You don't find it interesting that Gates was intimately involved in pushing vaccines which were used by the CIA to gather DNA? And then went on to be a figurehead for the largest mass vaccination drive in human history? And had close dealings with a man Alex Acosta was told to give a sweetheart deal because he "belonged to intelligence"? An application of the barest minimum of pattern recognition raises some interesting questions.

25 points by monero-xmr 3y ago

> trying to set up a philanthropic fund that he hoped would include the billionaire as an anchor donor haha yes, I'm sure this was the sum total of the influence Epstein was exerting.

leobg 3y ago

https://archive.is/Eb79S https://archive.is/Eb79S

hgsgm 3y ago

The article says nothing about any affair except that unnamed people said that Epstein unsuccessfully applied pressure based on a threat to expose an affair. No evidence about dates or location of affair are presented. Extreme hearsay.

VagueMag 3y ago
How would we know if Epstein had been successful?

sieongioetnio 3y ago

I don't understand why Gates would care. He was well known within Microsoft and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for constantly going after female subordinates. Why would this one affair be the straw that broke the camel's back? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce-epstein.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gat...

rand85632 3y ago
Why would an affair linked to a known pedophile pimp be different than going after subordinates? Your guess is as good as mine. (To be clear, Epstein was in fact a known pedophile pimp at this point in time)
- sieongioetnio 3y ago
  How is the affair "linked" to Epstein? As far as I can tell, Epstein merely learned of it and tried to use it as leverage. Besides, how could Epstein use his own crimes to blackmail someone? If he did somehow procure this woman for Gates, he couldn't reveal that fact without revealing himself as a sex trafficker. That would be a suicide bombing at best.
  - m348e912 3y ago
    My theory, it's a leak from gates himself to help distance himself from Epstein and position himself as a victim. Most don't care about his past relationships and the one who probably did the most divorced him. He had little to lose and some to gain from this getting out.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago

So much has been said about this guy as he was playing some 5-D chess with Govt. , CIA, NSA, Wall Street and Silicon Valley. In reality he was just trying to make money by doing as little real work he possibly could and his preferred tactic was to either become a provider of vices for people richer than him or failing that investigate a billionaire life in order to uncover something and use it as a blackmail weapon. And all the stuff that emerged up to now indicate that he managed to get in the proximity but never quite made it to the big leagues or score a big blackmail payment. Because at the end of the day billionaires are not politicians, they don't care about their reputation and they never did. So maybe only Bill Clinton paid him some millions.

belter 3y ago
How would you know? Harvard University got $6.5 million in 2003 from Epstein. He had assets in the hundreds of millions of dollars, when a few years before was just a college math professor on a meager salary. He presented himself as having made the money on Wall Street, but there is no single forensic track of anybody in Wall Street ever trading with him.
VagueMag 3y ago
Have you even seen how much money Les Wexner alone gifted to Epstein, on top of the [checks notes] largest townhouse in Manhattan?
- latchkey 3y ago
  It wasn't just gifts... Epstein managed his money!

VagueMag 3y ago

> “Our documents show that Mr. Gates met with Norwegian officials to discuss the security situation in Afghanistan as part of Mr. Gates’ work on polio eradication,” said the Gates spokeswoman. “Mr. Gates has never been focused on or campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize, or any other prize.” Jagland didn’t respond to requests for comment. He has previously said the prize wasn’t a topic for discussion during the Strasbourg meeting. That's interesting, this seems to have been not long after the CIA was caught using the polio vaccines to gather DNA in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Dudelander 3y ago
How is that in any way interesting? You conspiracy nuts will draw connections anywhere.
- VagueMag 3y ago
  You don't find it interesting that Gates was intimately involved in pushing vaccines which were used by the CIA to gather DNA? And then went on to be a figurehead for the largest mass vaccination drive in human history? And had close dealings with a man Alex Acosta was told to give a sweetheart deal because he "belonged to intelligence"? An application of the barest minimum of pattern recognition raises some interesting questions.