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Cyrillic and Latin letters in the same name? How come?

Etheryte 3y ago
The П here is uppercase Pi, not P in Cyrillic. The original name of BESM is БЭСМ, Бйстродействуйусхцхайа Електроннайа Сцхотнайа Масхина, i.e. "High-Speed Electronic Computing Machine [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM
- andrewshadura 3y ago
  Wow, someone’s really butchered the actual name, Большая/быстродействующая электронно-счётная машина.
- mynegation 3y ago
  Быстродействущая Электронная Счетная Машина. Your Cyrillic seems to be doubly transliterated.
  - m2fkxy 3y ago
    reminds me this hotel receptionist in Russia who, when writing my name down the registration paper (visa reasons), did so with this same double/direct transliteration (eg, "shch" to "схцх"). gave me a funny name in the end, and a good chuckle)
    - asveikau 3y ago
      Reminds me of a story: My father's parents were Lithuanian, so I have their surname, but I am American. In 2011 I had a Russian visa for a short trip to Moscow. They transliterated my name in a way that I don't think a Lithuanian travelling to Russia would have. Notably, Š was С and not Ш because the diacritic obviously won't appear on my US passport. I think they also had И where I might have put Й.
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    - Jim_Heckler 3y ago
      That's a very odd way to transliterate, especially considering the shch in Khrushchev is the latinization of the letter щ
- ummonk 3y ago
  Ah so before there was PyPy there was PiPi.
dottedmag 3y ago
Originally it was ПП-БЭСМ, «программирующая программа». Ershov's archive: http://ershov-arc.iis.nsk.su/archive/eaindex.asp?lang=1&gid=773 http://ershov-arc.iis.nsk.su/archive/eaindex.asp?lang=1&gid=...
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  (a) sorry about the poor transliteration, I cut-n-pasted from TFA (b) speaking of Ershov — anyone know what became of Рапира? It looks like a nice little language, and presumably many of the same ideas floating around the IFIP that inspired it also eventually led to Python (by way of ABC).
  - dottedmag 3y ago
    Рапира was provided (IIRC in ROM) with «Агат» computer, and then seems to have died the death of other Soviet programming languages, being replaced by Western imports.

The П here is uppercase Pi, not P in Cyrillic. The original name of BESM is БЭСМ, Бйстродействуйусхцхайа Електроннайа Сцхотнайа Масхина, i.e. "High-Speed Electronic Computing Machine [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM

andrewshadura 3y ago
Wow, someone’s really butchered the actual name, Большая/быстродействующая электронно-счётная машина.
mynegation 3y ago
Быстродействущая Электронная Счетная Машина. Your Cyrillic seems to be doubly transliterated.
- m2fkxy 3y ago
  reminds me this hotel receptionist in Russia who, when writing my name down the registration paper (visa reasons), did so with this same double/direct transliteration (eg, "shch" to "схцх"). gave me a funny name in the end, and a good chuckle)
  - asveikau 3y ago
    Reminds me of a story: My father's parents were Lithuanian, so I have their surname, but I am American. In 2011 I had a Russian visa for a short trip to Moscow. They transliterated my name in a way that I don't think a Lithuanian travelling to Russia would have. Notably, Š was С and not Ш because the diacritic obviously won't appear on my US passport. I think they also had И where I might have put Й.
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  - Jim_Heckler 3y ago
    That's a very odd way to transliterate, especially considering the shch in Khrushchev is the latinization of the letter щ
ummonk 3y ago
Ah so before there was PyPy there was PiPi.

dottedmag 3y ago

Originally it was ПП-БЭСМ, «программирующая программа». Ershov's archive: http://ershov-arc.iis.nsk.su/archive/eaindex.asp?lang=1&gid=773 http://ershov-arc.iis.nsk.su/archive/eaindex.asp?lang=1&gid=...

082349872349872 3y ago
(a) sorry about the poor transliteration, I cut-n-pasted from TFA (b) speaking of Ershov — anyone know what became of Рапира? It looks like a nice little language, and presumably many of the same ideas floating around the IFIP that inspired it also eventually led to Python (by way of ABC).
- dottedmag 3y ago
  Рапира was provided (IIRC in ROM) with «Агат» computer, and then seems to have died the death of other Soviet programming languages, being replaced by Western imports.