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Pure clickbait. Not at all what the page at MSFT is saying. If you actually go to the problem page, it says: > Next steps: We are working on a resolution and

Pure clickbait. Not at all what the page at MSFT is saying. If you actually go to the problem page, it says: > Next steps: We are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release. So, they just haven't fixed it yet.

sgift 3y ago
Yeah, the article even states it itself after much handwringing, though in another bullshit manner: > Microsoft claims that it is working on a resolution, and I hope it's able to roll one out that fixes the issue without making users uninstall certain apps. It's concerning, though, that there seem to be areas where Windows 11 (and Windows 10, which is also suffering from this problem) is so broken that Microsoft simply can’t fix it. Yes, software cannot be fixed by magically snipping your fingers. It takes time and effort. What a surprise. Duh.
revelio 3y ago
It's not clickbait unfortunately and the article shouldn't be flagged. Anyone who works closely with Windows in recent years knows that the OS is falling apart inside at a catastrophic rate. They seem to have entered some sort of tech debt spiral. Basic things that were once reliable no longer work right and MS seem unable or unwilling to fix them, or their attempts to fix them break things even further. I've seen them flatly give up on fixing bugs in things as basic as the sockets library or CreateProcess. Plus there are multiple critical, stop-ship level bugs in parts of Windows 10 that you'll hit if you follow their documentation for how to write and ship Windows apps. Some of these are fixed in Win 11 but they aren't backporting the fixes. Take a look at this page: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/shell-experience/troubleshoot-start-menu-errors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien... What other OS has such a huge page dedicated to debugging failures in something as basic as the menu of apps? It's impossible to imagine Apple having anything even close to this. The first one in the list is: "Deployment/Install issues - Easiest to identify but difficult to recover. This failure is consistent and usually permanent. Reset, restore from backup, or rollback to recover". As in, the start menu can now get so messed up that the only way to fix it is to reinstall the entire OS, and this isn't one bug but a whole class of bugs. Others mention corrupted local databases, corrupted registry keys, etc. Again, this isn't news to devs who have to work around this crap all day. Microsoft doesn't seem able to introduce a cache or a database into the OS without screwing it up and introducing random data corruptions and failures all over the place.

sgift 3y ago

Yeah, the article even states it itself after much handwringing, though in another bullshit manner: > Microsoft claims that it is working on a resolution, and I hope it's able to roll one out that fixes the issue without making users uninstall certain apps. It's concerning, though, that there seem to be areas where Windows 11 (and Windows 10, which is also suffering from this problem) is so broken that Microsoft simply can’t fix it. Yes, software cannot be fixed by magically snipping your fingers. It takes time and effort. What a surprise. Duh.

revelio 3y ago

It's not clickbait unfortunately and the article shouldn't be flagged. Anyone who works closely with Windows in recent years knows that the OS is falling apart inside at a catastrophic rate. They seem to have entered some sort of tech debt spiral. Basic things that were once reliable no longer work right and MS seem unable or unwilling to fix them, or their attempts to fix them break things even further. I've seen them flatly give up on fixing bugs in things as basic as the sockets library or CreateProcess. Plus there are multiple critical, stop-ship level bugs in parts of Windows 10 that you'll hit if you follow their documentation for how to write and ship Windows apps. Some of these are fixed in Win 11 but they aren't backporting the fixes. Take a look at this page: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/shell-experience/troubleshoot-start-menu-errors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien... What other OS has such a huge page dedicated to debugging failures in something as basic as the menu of apps? It's impossible to imagine Apple having anything even close to this. The first one in the list is: "Deployment/Install issues - Easiest to identify but difficult to recover. This failure is consistent and usually permanent. Reset, restore from backup, or rollback to recover". As in, the start menu can now get so messed up that the only way to fix it is to reinstall the entire OS, and this isn't one bug but a whole class of bugs. Others mention corrupted local databases, corrupted registry keys, etc. Again, this isn't news to devs who have to work around this crap all day. Microsoft doesn't seem able to introduce a cache or a database into the OS without screwing it up and introducing random data corruptions and failures all over the place.