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I apologize for the somewhat off-topic nature off this comment, but it really irritates me when I see the website for a product with competition, go to their si

I apologize for the somewhat off-topic nature off this comment, but it really irritates me when I see the website for a product with competition, go to their sitemap, and see this blatant SEO gaming. For example, I went to their FAQ (https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq) expecting things about their database, instead I get a bunch of copycat answers to weird questions intended to drive traffic to their site when people ask questions about other databases. I see many application sites doing this nowadays, and it makes me not want to use them. I imagine with GPT this is very easy to generate now

Veen 3y ago
> I imagine with GPT this is very easy to generate now That's exactly what they are doing, but if they had any brains, they'd have a human read the answers before they publish: https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good > As an AI language model, I am unable to make subjective judgments on whether Memcached is "good" or not. However, I can provide information about the features, benefits, and limitations of Memcached.
- boundlessdreamz 3y ago
  This is tragically funny. If the dragon fly devs are reading this, stop this nonsense seo gaming. This makes me trust your db less and cheapens everything that you stand for.
  - romange 3y ago
    We are reading this and we will fix it shortly.
    - dangoodmanUT 3y ago
      Seems to be fixed
      - viraptor 3y ago
        It's... patched up to avoid embarrassment. It will be fixed when they remove the SEO spam.
    - SargeDebian 3y ago
      You removed the specific answer but did not address the underlying problem that this thread is about.
    - SahAssar 3y ago
      Is your definition of fixing to remove the most obvious indicators that you autogrenerated spam or actually removing the spam?
- dangoodmanUT 3y ago
  Why should I trust someone with my data that can't even manage this lmao
  - romange 3y ago
    Because we focus on building the most awesome datastore and you should decide whether you prefer having your store designed by good marketeers or good engineers.
    - white_dragon88 3y ago
      [dead]
    - detaro 3y ago
      "Willing to take shortcuts of questionable ethics" is not a sign of a good engineer either. EDIT: ah, and now I see you also defending your shitty benchmarks downthread. Yeah, no, that's not how you gain trust.
  - avinassh 3y ago
    Is that a valid reason to asses a tech product? Does it matter how good or bad they are at content and SEO? From this bad episode alone, how can we judge if they are bad at keeping the data safe/secure? I am trying to remember when I last checked Redis' or Clickhouse's homepage or other pages on their site. I only care about their documentation pages and if they deliver what they are promising.
- captn3m0 3y ago
  Fixed, but still on Google Cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U1XttD4bP0oJ:https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U1XttD...
- spacechild1 3y ago
  Wow, this is really embarassing. I'm a bit shocked that they thought it is ok to autogenerate a FAQ with an AI. It's dishonest and irresponsible.
prakis 3y ago
Its a bit surprising, the faq is all about Redis and other tools but not about Dragonfly.
romange 3y ago
You are absolutely right, and I apologize for having this experience. SEO is part of the game, but it should not be in FAQ section.
- r1ch 3y ago
  This is the kind of thing that I hope search engines will penalize you for. You're treading a very fine line between "SEO" and outright deception.
  - SahAssar 3y ago
    They are not threading the line. This is outright autogenerated spam.
    - romange 3y ago
      This is definition of spam: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spam https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spam To the best of my knowledge this page was not sent to anyone.
      - Veen 3y ago
        That's not Google's definition of search spam, as I suspect you will soon find out.
      - SahAssar 3y ago
        Spam in the context of SEO clearly means something more similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamdexing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamdexing or unhelpful/dishonest/unrelated content that is just there for ranking. Are you disputing that the FAQ page tries to rank your site higher by having autogenerated answers to questions your site is not authoritative on? Are any of the questions on the FAQ actually written or meant to be read by a human?
      - inhumantsar 3y ago
        We all know that the definition has expanded in recent years to include low-effort or bot-generated content being flogged on social media (eg: one of Reddit's report options is "spam") and in search results. Either way, if you want to keep a positive image going, don't take internet comments personally. Just incorporate the feedback and make changes if you feel it's warranted.
OPoncz 3y ago
All, My name is Oded Poncz, I am the CEO of DragonflyDB. Our goal with the FAQ was to aggragate valuable information for our community. We will take all the valuable feedback from this thread and improve. Thank you all for the feedback.
- wcdolphin 3y ago
  Is there a timeline for a clustered, HA and horizontally scaled version? The vertical scaling and performance seem extremely interesting, but for our use cases we need HA. From a business perspective I’m interested to hear about the plans. Will there be a per core licensing fee of some sort?
  - OPoncz 3y ago
    HA already supported since v1.0. Dragonfly is released under BSL1.1. Its free for use in most cases. https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq
spacechild1 3y ago
Strange, your link to the FAQ gives me a 404, but existing links to specific FAQ sections, posted in the comments below, still work. On the website I can only find this: https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq. Maybe they took down the original FAQ?

Veen 3y ago

> I imagine with GPT this is very easy to generate now That's exactly what they are doing, but if they had any brains, they'd have a human read the answers before they publish: https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good > As an AI language model, I am unable to make subjective judgments on whether Memcached is "good" or not. However, I can provide information about the features, benefits, and limitations of Memcached.

boundlessdreamz 3y ago
This is tragically funny. If the dragon fly devs are reading this, stop this nonsense seo gaming. This makes me trust your db less and cheapens everything that you stand for.
- romange 3y ago
  We are reading this and we will fix it shortly.
  - dangoodmanUT 3y ago
    Seems to be fixed
    - viraptor 3y ago
      It's... patched up to avoid embarrassment. It will be fixed when they remove the SEO spam.
  - SargeDebian 3y ago
    You removed the specific answer but did not address the underlying problem that this thread is about.
  - SahAssar 3y ago
    Is your definition of fixing to remove the most obvious indicators that you autogrenerated spam or actually removing the spam?
dangoodmanUT 3y ago
Why should I trust someone with my data that can't even manage this lmao
- romange 3y ago
  Because we focus on building the most awesome datastore and you should decide whether you prefer having your store designed by good marketeers or good engineers.
  - white_dragon88 3y ago
    [dead]
  - detaro 3y ago
    "Willing to take shortcuts of questionable ethics" is not a sign of a good engineer either. EDIT: ah, and now I see you also defending your shitty benchmarks downthread. Yeah, no, that's not how you gain trust.
- avinassh 3y ago
  Is that a valid reason to asses a tech product? Does it matter how good or bad they are at content and SEO? From this bad episode alone, how can we judge if they are bad at keeping the data safe/secure? I am trying to remember when I last checked Redis' or Clickhouse's homepage or other pages on their site. I only care about their documentation pages and if they deliver what they are promising.
captn3m0 3y ago
Fixed, but still on Google Cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U1XttD4bP0oJ:https://www.dragonflydb.io/faq/is-memcached-good https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U1XttD...
spacechild1 3y ago
Wow, this is really embarassing. I'm a bit shocked that they thought it is ok to autogenerate a FAQ with an AI. It's dishonest and irresponsible.

prakis 3y ago

Its a bit surprising, the faq is all about Redis and other tools but not about Dragonfly.

romange 3y ago

You are absolutely right, and I apologize for having this experience. SEO is part of the game, but it should not be in FAQ section.

r1ch 3y ago
This is the kind of thing that I hope search engines will penalize you for. You're treading a very fine line between "SEO" and outright deception.
- SahAssar 3y ago
  They are not threading the line. This is outright autogenerated spam.
  - romange 3y ago
    This is definition of spam: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spam https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spam To the best of my knowledge this page was not sent to anyone.
    - Veen 3y ago
      That's not Google's definition of search spam, as I suspect you will soon find out.
    - SahAssar 3y ago
      Spam in the context of SEO clearly means something more similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamdexing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamdexing or unhelpful/dishonest/unrelated content that is just there for ranking. Are you disputing that the FAQ page tries to rank your site higher by having autogenerated answers to questions your site is not authoritative on? Are any of the questions on the FAQ actually written or meant to be read by a human?
    - inhumantsar 3y ago
      We all know that the definition has expanded in recent years to include low-effort or bot-generated content being flogged on social media (eg: one of Reddit's report options is "spam") and in search results. Either way, if you want to keep a positive image going, don't take internet comments personally. Just incorporate the feedback and make changes if you feel it's warranted.

OPoncz 3y ago

All, My name is Oded Poncz, I am the CEO of DragonflyDB. Our goal with the FAQ was to aggragate valuable information for our community. We will take all the valuable feedback from this thread and improve. Thank you all for the feedback.

wcdolphin 3y ago
Is there a timeline for a clustered, HA and horizontally scaled version? The vertical scaling and performance seem extremely interesting, but for our use cases we need HA. From a business perspective I’m interested to hear about the plans. Will there be a per core licensing fee of some sort?
- OPoncz 3y ago
  HA already supported since v1.0. Dragonfly is released under BSL1.1. Its free for use in most cases. https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq

spacechild1 3y ago

Strange, your link to the FAQ gives me a 404, but existing links to specific FAQ sections, posted in the comments below, still work. On the website I can only find this: https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq https://www.dragonflydb.io/docs/about/faq. Maybe they took down the original FAQ?