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This is not a good example of what happens in America in general, since the position of the Bush administration was that Guantanamo Bay was outside of US legal

This is not a good example of what happens in America in general, since the position of the Bush administration was that Guantanamo Bay was outside of US legal jurisdiction. It was considered a alternative to the US court system.

okwubodu 3y ago
> In the Bronx, DiMango’s job was to review cases and clear them: by getting weak cases dismissed, extracting guilty pleas from defendants, or referring cases to trial in another courtroom. At the start of 2013, there were nine hundred and fifty-two felony cases in the Bronx, including Browder’s, that were more than two years old. In the next twelve months, DiMango disposed of a thousand cases, some as old as five years. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/before-the-law https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/before-the-law
vasco 3y ago
So all they have to do is to fly you there? How is "in this special place we do whatever we want" a justification?
- hkt 3y ago
  Because terrorism! As I understand it the basis legally is about Guantanamo bay not being formally part of the US, and therefore not subject to the constitution or regular law. Military law probably applies, although I'm not 100% on this.
- polski-g 3y ago
  Non US citizens, outside US territory are not protected by the US constitution.
hulitu 3y ago
> This is not a good example of what happens in America in general, since the position of the Bush administration was that Guantanamo Bay was outside of US legal jurisdiction Then the next logical step is to declare Detroit outside of US legal jurisdiction. This will solve a lot problems. /s
- masklinn 3y ago
  Like every other major city it's halfway there thanks to the "border zone" system (as it's literally on the border), much of the 4th is effectively curtailed already.
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yunohn 3y ago
> the position of And that’s the problem. The government “deciding” that Guantanamo is a special jurisdiction to do whatever they want. Not sure why your innocent framing justifies it?

okwubodu 3y ago

> In the Bronx, DiMango’s job was to review cases and clear them: by getting weak cases dismissed, extracting guilty pleas from defendants, or referring cases to trial in another courtroom. At the start of 2013, there were nine hundred and fifty-two felony cases in the Bronx, including Browder’s, that were more than two years old. In the next twelve months, DiMango disposed of a thousand cases, some as old as five years. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/before-the-law https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/before-the-law

vasco 3y ago

So all they have to do is to fly you there? How is "in this special place we do whatever we want" a justification?

hkt 3y ago
Because terrorism! As I understand it the basis legally is about Guantanamo bay not being formally part of the US, and therefore not subject to the constitution or regular law. Military law probably applies, although I'm not 100% on this.
polski-g 3y ago
Non US citizens, outside US territory are not protected by the US constitution.

hulitu 3y ago

> This is not a good example of what happens in America in general, since the position of the Bush administration was that Guantanamo Bay was outside of US legal jurisdiction Then the next logical step is to declare Detroit outside of US legal jurisdiction. This will solve a lot problems. /s

masklinn 3y ago
Like every other major city it's halfway there thanks to the "border zone" system (as it's literally on the border), much of the 4th is effectively curtailed already.

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yunohn 3y ago

> the position of And that’s the problem. The government “deciding” that Guantanamo is a special jurisdiction to do whatever they want. Not sure why your innocent framing justifies it?