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Great points. I would add: >twitter arm chair warriors The people coming up with these insane warmongering narratives are not random everyday Americans. They

Great points. I would add: >twitter arm chair warriors The people coming up with these insane warmongering narratives are not random everyday Americans. They are all US foreign policy apparatchiks. People working at “think tanks” in Washington DC or ex-CIA analysts writing for corporate media outlets. They are not a grass roots phenomena.

fuoqi 3y ago
Yeah, it sounds like an intentional campaign to reduce discontent from raising the stakes in the proxy war against Russia.
metalspot 3y ago
> US foreign policy apparatchiks who are, unfortunately, pretty much just that. there is an enormous risk in the US, which has not fought a war on its own soil since the civil war, and has not been in a real existential battle since WWII, that the younger the decision makers get, the more detached from the reality of actual war they become. the biggest war mongers are generally people who have no combat experience at all and have never face any real adversity in their lives. but even combat experience, when it is limited to being part of a vastly superior force that slaughters its opponents at will, is nothing compared to the experience of having your own country invaded.
archagon 3y ago
Do you have evidence of this?
- goodSteveramos 3y ago
  Give me a million dollars and I’ll do a study. Otherwise I'm just going to go off my own personal experience of seeing this type of thing happen over and over again.
  - archagon 3y ago
    My own personal experience is that foreign policy analysts are not interested in dangerous escalation of the war, especially where nukes are concerned, while armchair generals on social media are more than happy to sling stupid opinions of their own making (which are thankfully ignored by the adults in the room).
    - goodSteveramos 3y ago
      “US officials are now suggesting that NATO should not be fearful of such [nuclear war] scenarios. In March, three US officials with intelligence on Russian warheads claimed that around 60 percent of Moscow's missiles do not work.” https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1615231/putin-news-russia-nuclear-ukraine-war-nukes-spt https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1615231/putin-news-russ... US government officials and armchair generals on social media are not exactly the same thing.

fuoqi 3y ago

Yeah, it sounds like an intentional campaign to reduce discontent from raising the stakes in the proxy war against Russia.

metalspot 3y ago

> US foreign policy apparatchiks who are, unfortunately, pretty much just that. there is an enormous risk in the US, which has not fought a war on its own soil since the civil war, and has not been in a real existential battle since WWII, that the younger the decision makers get, the more detached from the reality of actual war they become. the biggest war mongers are generally people who have no combat experience at all and have never face any real adversity in their lives. but even combat experience, when it is limited to being part of a vastly superior force that slaughters its opponents at will, is nothing compared to the experience of having your own country invaded.

archagon 3y ago

Do you have evidence of this?

goodSteveramos 3y ago
Give me a million dollars and I’ll do a study. Otherwise I'm just going to go off my own personal experience of seeing this type of thing happen over and over again.
- archagon 3y ago
  My own personal experience is that foreign policy analysts are not interested in dangerous escalation of the war, especially where nukes are concerned, while armchair generals on social media are more than happy to sling stupid opinions of their own making (which are thankfully ignored by the adults in the room).
  - goodSteveramos 3y ago
    “US officials are now suggesting that NATO should not be fearful of such [nuclear war] scenarios. In March, three US officials with intelligence on Russian warheads claimed that around 60 percent of Moscow's missiles do not work.” https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1615231/putin-news-russia-nuclear-ukraine-war-nukes-spt https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1615231/putin-news-russ... US government officials and armchair generals on social media are not exactly the same thing.