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Child support can be covert alimony. Seems they separated and got back together with a prenuptial agreement that separated his assets from hers. It's very one s

Child support can be covert alimony. Seems they separated and got back together with a prenuptial agreement that separated his assets from hers. It's very one sided, why did she agree to that? Infidelity? There is two sides to every story, can't condemn someone from what is presented here.

s1artibartfast 3y ago
I don't even think the prenup is particularly unfair. Both would work and contribute to shared assets, with him presumably making a larger total contribution. This seems reasonable in a household where both parties are working and you don't have one which is only supporting the other. I never understood the rationale for considering all assets and income joint property in marital situations you don't have a dedicated/primary homemaker.
- 93po 3y ago
  > I never understood the rationale for considering all assets and income joint property in marital situations you don't have a dedicated/primary homemaker. Because proving you're a homemaker is very difficult and a homemaker with no resources is unlikely to be successful very often in a court of law. Everyone is aware of the laws around joint property and the ramifications of divorce. If you don't like the prospect of losing half your shit, don't get married. Prenups are also often worthless if they're one-sided and frequently get entirely thrown out. My anecdotal observations have been that child support is also largely alimony in practice. I don't have strong feelings as to whether this is a good or bad thing.
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    Your lack of strong feelings is someone else's suffering. Not everyone agrees that marriage should resort in a lifelong ball and chain post-divorce. And the case for child support is stronger than that of alimony so to use alimony as an excuse for child support payments weakens the argument, it doesn't strengthen it.
    - 93po 3y ago
      i don't deny that child support is frequently extremely burdensome or even impossible for the person paying it. i don't have strong feels about alimony as a general concept being a bad idea. i do have strong feelings that the way child support is awarded is broken.

s1artibartfast 3y ago

I don't even think the prenup is particularly unfair. Both would work and contribute to shared assets, with him presumably making a larger total contribution. This seems reasonable in a household where both parties are working and you don't have one which is only supporting the other. I never understood the rationale for considering all assets and income joint property in marital situations you don't have a dedicated/primary homemaker.

93po 3y ago
> I never understood the rationale for considering all assets and income joint property in marital situations you don't have a dedicated/primary homemaker. Because proving you're a homemaker is very difficult and a homemaker with no resources is unlikely to be successful very often in a court of law. Everyone is aware of the laws around joint property and the ramifications of divorce. If you don't like the prospect of losing half your shit, don't get married. Prenups are also often worthless if they're one-sided and frequently get entirely thrown out. My anecdotal observations have been that child support is also largely alimony in practice. I don't have strong feelings as to whether this is a good or bad thing.
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  Your lack of strong feelings is someone else's suffering. Not everyone agrees that marriage should resort in a lifelong ball and chain post-divorce. And the case for child support is stronger than that of alimony so to use alimony as an excuse for child support payments weakens the argument, it doesn't strengthen it.
  - 93po 3y ago
    i don't deny that child support is frequently extremely burdensome or even impossible for the person paying it. i don't have strong feels about alimony as a general concept being a bad idea. i do have strong feelings that the way child support is awarded is broken.