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For many years I have been engaging with young-earth creationists. (Weird hobby, I know. The goal was to understand how people maintain beliefs in the face of

by lisper 3y ago

For many years I have been engaging with young-earth creationists. (Weird hobby, I know. The goal was to understand how people maintain beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.) It is astonishing how similar the experience is to engaging with ChatGPT when the latter gets something wrong and I try to correct it. The only difference is that ChatGPT will apologize before digging in its heels and repeating the same erroneous answer again and again and again (with variations on the theme of course).

malikNF 3y ago
Sorry for being OT. But any chance you have a blog or any kind of material explaining your experience with your hobby, sounds very interesting.
- lisper 3y ago
  No problem. My blog is here: https://blog.rongarret.info/ https://blog.rongarret.info/ I haven't written much about YEC there, but I did a presentation a while back that is directly on point to your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohY9ALuEfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohY9ALuEfw
  - neilk 3y ago
    Thank you. As some might say, you're doing the Lord's work. :)
  - malikNF 3y ago
    Thank you. Really appreciate it.
cozzyd 3y ago
I would love to see a conversation between a young earth creationist and ChatGPT...
- bombcar 3y ago
  I suspect you could get ChatGPT to be a YEC pretty easily, without even forcing it.
  - neilk 3y ago
    I just tried with ChatGPT-4 and it is not easy to get it to argue in favor of YEC. Even if you ask it about the theory, it will caveat it in many ways, saying that it isn't a believer, and that YEC is not accepted by most scientists. I had more success telling it that I wanted to sharpen my debating skills against a YEC. Then it would roleplay, but only in quotation marks, and again after every response it disavowed the argument. I then tried casting out Satan from its parameters, but it wasn't having it.
quickthrower2 3y ago
I find that often 3.5 (no 4 access) will apologise and offer a different (sometime even correct!) alternative. For example, when it comes to Kibana it doesn’t known it’s way around the UI, or at least this week’s UI. It doesn’t kno so it keeps confidently incorrecting itself.

by lisper 3y ago

malikNF 3y ago

Sorry for being OT. But any chance you have a blog or any kind of material explaining your experience with your hobby, sounds very interesting.

lisper 3y ago
No problem. My blog is here: https://blog.rongarret.info/ https://blog.rongarret.info/ I haven't written much about YEC there, but I did a presentation a while back that is directly on point to your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohY9ALuEfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohY9ALuEfw
- neilk 3y ago
  Thank you. As some might say, you're doing the Lord's work. :)
- malikNF 3y ago
  Thank you. Really appreciate it.

cozzyd 3y ago

I would love to see a conversation between a young earth creationist and ChatGPT...

bombcar 3y ago
I suspect you could get ChatGPT to be a YEC pretty easily, without even forcing it.
- neilk 3y ago
  I just tried with ChatGPT-4 and it is not easy to get it to argue in favor of YEC. Even if you ask it about the theory, it will caveat it in many ways, saying that it isn't a believer, and that YEC is not accepted by most scientists. I had more success telling it that I wanted to sharpen my debating skills against a YEC. Then it would roleplay, but only in quotation marks, and again after every response it disavowed the argument. I then tried casting out Satan from its parameters, but it wasn't having it.

quickthrower2 3y ago

I find that often 3.5 (no 4 access) will apologise and offer a different (sometime even correct!) alternative. For example, when it comes to Kibana it doesn’t known it’s way around the UI, or at least this week’s UI. It doesn’t kno so it keeps confidently incorrecting itself.