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I totally agree, and surprised it's a bit controversial here. I understand that reading for pleasure can be different than reading for comprehension But I lea
by chubot 3y ago
I totally agree, and surprised it's a bit controversial here. I understand that reading for pleasure can be different than reading for comprehension
But I lean towards reading for comprehension. I have a wiki which includes all the books I've read. The good ones get their own wiki pages with the main things I learned, and other notes.
A key point is that I don't take notes while I read. I only do it LATER -- because if you can't remember what to write down for a few days, then you probably won't retain it, and it may not be worth retaining.
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As a specific example, when thinking about this -- I wonder if anybody has read "The Signal vs. The Noise" by Nate Silver? I remember reading it because a friend had a copy.
Many years later, off the top of my head, I can't remember a single thing in that book. Question for other readers: can you remember a single thing from it?
I think maybe it's because I kinda knew most of the stuff in that book? I will refer to my notes.
On the other hand, I've been re-reading Antifragile by Taleb, which I first read in 2012 I believe, and it struck me how many things I absorbed unconsciously from that book, which I didn't ascribe to it.
For example I remember talking about "hormesis" during COVID, i.e. small errors and stress. And also I took up some light weightlifting because I thought it was a good complement to bike riding. i.e. having 2 different kinds of exercise
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edit: Just went to back to my notes on Silver's book (finished January 2014). Surprisingly I was extremely positive on the book -- I said the writing was engaging, it's well-sourced, very good set of topics (weather prediction, earthquakes, terrorists, poker, basketball, financial markets), and novel insights
Though the funny thing is that I didn't say what the actual insights were. The only one was the importance of knowing when you don't know, which I also got from Taleb
So maybe I should go back to that book and see if I still think it's good, and if there were insights I didn't get elsewhere
It's funny perhaps that my perception of the book has been clouded by Silver's reputation. I think he has been criticized for "predicting the present" and of "horse race coverage", and I think that's true now. But back when I read the book, I probably had a much more positive impression of him!! Very interesting
- tsimionescu 3y agoI'm guessing a large part of the controversy is related to the fact that reading has many different aspects. Possibly the article is referring to the same kind of reading you're referring to - technical books on various real-world topics. However, it's much harder to see the value in doing anything like the article is suggesting for literature. Is there really much to gain from writing a summary of Virginia Woolf's To The Lighthouse, or of a book of poetry? Is that even the right way to engage with the material?
- chubot 3y agoOh definitely, and I think part of the pushback is framing it as "writing summaries". That sounds like homework. :) But I would just call it engaging with the ideas after you read. So talking with a friend about a book is just as good, and even better. And writing a comment on a forum can be just as good, as it's an active thing too. I sometimes write comments and then link them from my wiki. I've had a GoodReads account in the past, but somehow it seems a bit shallow and artificial ... almost a bit like homework. It's better if the topics naturally come up, but if they don't, I still find writing notes to myself to enhance the reading experience. I mean you may spend 1 week or 8 weeks reading a book. I don't see why spending 5 to 30 minutes writing notes a few days after can be viewed as bad. I totally agree with the author in that those 5 or 30 minutes is way better spent writing about what you read, rather than 5 or 30 minutes reading something new that you may or may not retain. And again I'm focusing on reading non-fiction for retention, not literature. (For better or worse, I read WAY more non-fiction than literature)