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There are ~4MM teachers in the US. 117B / 4MM is around $30K. Will +$1,500 ($125) over 20 years help them make ends meet? How about $3,000 ($250/month) over a d

There are ~4MM teachers in the US. 117B / 4MM is around $30K. Will +$1,500 ($125) over 20 years help them make ends meet? How about $3,000 ($250/month) over a decade? Maybe it will! But, maybe just maybe, you should be complaining to your local officials and fellow constituents who continue to shirk tax increases and levy approvals instead of HN.

Ancalagon 3y ago
What are you even saying? $30k per teacher per year would be life-changing for teachers who currently need food banks and buy supplies for their classrooms.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > $30k per teacher per year The Ukraine aid isn't “per year” (and its largely loans that have to be repaid) and it largely isn’t current expenditures but transfers of very much nonfungible equipment from US inventories, so splitting the total amount among current teachers doesn’t result in a per year figure for sure, and it doesn't really produce any meaningful figure. I mean, if you really wanted to split what Ukraine is getting among US teachers instead, it would be each teacher getting something like a 1/100 share of a used HIMARS launcher and $30k of debt.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    > it would be each teacher getting something like a 1/100 share of a used HIMARS launcher and $30k of debt That would be remarkably on brand.
- arp242 3y ago
  The previous calculation wasn't $30k/year, but $30k over 20 years, or $1.5k/year. That's a lot less significant. The point they were trying to make is that these are structural issues that are not going to be solved with a bit of extra cash that's currently going to Ukraine and that a more significant and structural improvements need to be made. In short: I think you actually agree with the previous poster, at least in broad lines.
  - freeone3000 3y ago
    $1500 a year would also be literally lifechanging for so many people. An extra month’s pay would do so much.
    - arp242 3y ago
      The average teacher salary is $60k according to a quick search, although I'm sure this varies by region. After taxes $1,500 is not insignificant, but also not that much. You are missing the point as well: it's about structural issues that are not going to be solved with some relatively small extra bonus.
    - wernercd 3y ago
      that much cash would be lifechanging... as it would add to the rampant inflation already in flight. It would change the lives of everyone by making things worse. Thanks for the offer but how about instead of making the problem worse for everyone in your attempt to help those poor poor teachers... maybe we look at stuff like less "help" from the government that's making everything more expensive and worse at every level? Worst words you'll hear: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Ancalagon 3y ago

What are you even saying? $30k per teacher per year would be life-changing for teachers who currently need food banks and buy supplies for their classrooms.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> $30k per teacher per year The Ukraine aid isn't “per year” (and its largely loans that have to be repaid) and it largely isn’t current expenditures but transfers of very much nonfungible equipment from US inventories, so splitting the total amount among current teachers doesn’t result in a per year figure for sure, and it doesn't really produce any meaningful figure. I mean, if you really wanted to split what Ukraine is getting among US teachers instead, it would be each teacher getting something like a 1/100 share of a used HIMARS launcher and $30k of debt.
- mindslight 3y ago
  > it would be each teacher getting something like a 1/100 share of a used HIMARS launcher and $30k of debt That would be remarkably on brand.
arp242 3y ago
The previous calculation wasn't $30k/year, but $30k over 20 years, or $1.5k/year. That's a lot less significant. The point they were trying to make is that these are structural issues that are not going to be solved with a bit of extra cash that's currently going to Ukraine and that a more significant and structural improvements need to be made. In short: I think you actually agree with the previous poster, at least in broad lines.
- freeone3000 3y ago
  $1500 a year would also be literally lifechanging for so many people. An extra month’s pay would do so much.
  - arp242 3y ago
    The average teacher salary is $60k according to a quick search, although I'm sure this varies by region. After taxes $1,500 is not insignificant, but also not that much. You are missing the point as well: it's about structural issues that are not going to be solved with some relatively small extra bonus.
  - wernercd 3y ago
    that much cash would be lifechanging... as it would add to the rampant inflation already in flight. It would change the lives of everyone by making things worse. Thanks for the offer but how about instead of making the problem worse for everyone in your attempt to help those poor poor teachers... maybe we look at stuff like less "help" from the government that's making everything more expensive and worse at every level? Worst words you'll hear: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.