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The most fucked up thing I heard is about people investing in artificial wombs. You want to know the actual reason they’re doing this? It’s not because some re

The most fucked up thing I heard is about people investing in artificial wombs. You want to know the actual reason they’re doing this? It’s not because some restrictive laws were passed or to keep the physical toll low on the mom, etc. maybe it is, but that would be found in the marketing slide. “We are too generous with how much leave we offer” Everything is to extract as much value out of everyday things as possible. In this case, their thinking is along the lines of how can they can get women to stay in the office longer while the kid bakes at homes. Maybe offer a short leave after it’s ready. But the economy grinds harder since the woman employee didn’t have to take time off for doctors visits or to recuperate post birth. 90% of the ideas and products that come out of here have a solid dystopian underpinning to them.

justin66 3y ago
As predicted in the final episode of Max Headroom, titled Baby Grobags. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jl2mm https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jl2mm I don't know if it's the best intro to the series, it was the final episode in fact.
- dwaite 3y ago
  TIL that George R R Martin wrote an unproduced "Xmas" script from the cancelled second season.
  - justin66 3y ago
    Holy moly, I don't know how I never knew about this. https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2017/03/30/max-headroom-returns/ https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2017/03/30/max-headroom-... Mine was supposedly to be… hmmmmm, let me see now… the fourth episode of the series. My title was “Mister Meat.” Now, TV writing in those days was a two-step process: “story with option to teleplay,” they called it. You wrote a ‘story,’ a short plot outline with all the major beats and characters. Then, when the showrunners, studio, and network all approved it, you went on to write the teleplay. “Mister Meat” never got that far, alas. The showrunners and my fellow Maxxies loved it, as I recall, but when ABC saw the story they reacted with horror. Way too disturbing and offensive, they announced, driving a spike firmly through my concept and sending me on my way. Which I why I never got hired onto MAX HEADROOM and wound up on staff on BEAUTY AND THE BEAST instead. I got a second chance when MAX was picked up for a second season, however. As a freelancer, I got the choice assignment of writing the Christmas episode. And this time I went to town. Wrote the story, rewrote the story, wrote the teleplay, revised the teleplay. “Xmas” was the title of the episode, and it got as far as pre-production… And then the show was cancelled. Rather suddenly and unceremoniously, I must say. America was spared from celebrating Xmas with Max.
    - dwaite 3y ago
      Seems right up his alley, too - star of the show was killed off in the first 10 minutes of the pilot.
- zh3 3y ago
  I always liked the intro. Police busting into someones apartment, Edison Carter (jourrnalist) wanting to know what the problem was. Cop flips over a pillow by the TV, says something like:- "It's an off switch. She'll get years for that".
hyperliner 3y ago
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zdragnar 3y ago
What does an artificial womb have to do with parental leave? Mothers already spend historically low times recovering in hospitals post delivery. Parental leave is about bonding with the child and providing care for it while it is especially vulnerable. That's why it is called parental leave- some countries and a growing number of companies offer it to fathers as well.
- moomoo11 3y ago
  I'm in the US so I have no clue about other countries. Like I said in my post, the doctors visits while carrying the baby, the PVT due to stress and other factors, and the maternity/paternity leave (at companies I've worked they allow 6-9+ months maternity and 2-4 months for paternity). Companies know they will offer these leaves, but the in the lead up to that there is a lot of OOO and unrealized effort. There are people at every company and at large who are crunching efficiency numbers while we sit there hammering out features and fixes.
  - zdragnar 3y ago
    I think you're missing the obvious - paternity leave is expanding. It wasn't even a thing in the US when I started my career. The idea that the only reason artificial wombs are being investigated is "corporate greed wants workers to take less time off for pregnancy" is so far fetched it might just be the silliest conspiracy theory I've heard in awhile. The amount of money going into the design, research, regulatory hurdles etc will not be paid off by decreased PTO usage. If anything, it'll just get used up again when the infant inevitably gets sick or a care worker isn't available to watch them. Thanks for the chuckle.
    - moomoo11 3y ago
      you're welcome! whatever makes you happy, making up whatever conclusion from what you read! FWIW I did not mention paternity/maternity in my post at all... 10/10 reading comp..
      - 3y ago

justin66 3y ago

As predicted in the final episode of Max Headroom, titled Baby Grobags. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jl2mm https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jl2mm I don't know if it's the best intro to the series, it was the final episode in fact.

dwaite 3y ago
TIL that George R R Martin wrote an unproduced "Xmas" script from the cancelled second season.
- justin66 3y ago
  Holy moly, I don't know how I never knew about this. https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2017/03/30/max-headroom-returns/ https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2017/03/30/max-headroom-... Mine was supposedly to be… hmmmmm, let me see now… the fourth episode of the series. My title was “Mister Meat.” Now, TV writing in those days was a two-step process: “story with option to teleplay,” they called it. You wrote a ‘story,’ a short plot outline with all the major beats and characters. Then, when the showrunners, studio, and network all approved it, you went on to write the teleplay. “Mister Meat” never got that far, alas. The showrunners and my fellow Maxxies loved it, as I recall, but when ABC saw the story they reacted with horror. Way too disturbing and offensive, they announced, driving a spike firmly through my concept and sending me on my way. Which I why I never got hired onto MAX HEADROOM and wound up on staff on BEAUTY AND THE BEAST instead. I got a second chance when MAX was picked up for a second season, however. As a freelancer, I got the choice assignment of writing the Christmas episode. And this time I went to town. Wrote the story, rewrote the story, wrote the teleplay, revised the teleplay. “Xmas” was the title of the episode, and it got as far as pre-production… And then the show was cancelled. Rather suddenly and unceremoniously, I must say. America was spared from celebrating Xmas with Max.
  - dwaite 3y ago
    Seems right up his alley, too - star of the show was killed off in the first 10 minutes of the pilot.
zh3 3y ago
I always liked the intro. Police busting into someones apartment, Edison Carter (jourrnalist) wanting to know what the problem was. Cop flips over a pillow by the TV, says something like:- "It's an off switch. She'll get years for that".

hyperliner 3y ago

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zdragnar 3y ago

What does an artificial womb have to do with parental leave? Mothers already spend historically low times recovering in hospitals post delivery. Parental leave is about bonding with the child and providing care for it while it is especially vulnerable. That's why it is called parental leave- some countries and a growing number of companies offer it to fathers as well.

moomoo11 3y ago
I'm in the US so I have no clue about other countries. Like I said in my post, the doctors visits while carrying the baby, the PVT due to stress and other factors, and the maternity/paternity leave (at companies I've worked they allow 6-9+ months maternity and 2-4 months for paternity). Companies know they will offer these leaves, but the in the lead up to that there is a lot of OOO and unrealized effort. There are people at every company and at large who are crunching efficiency numbers while we sit there hammering out features and fixes.
- zdragnar 3y ago
  I think you're missing the obvious - paternity leave is expanding. It wasn't even a thing in the US when I started my career. The idea that the only reason artificial wombs are being investigated is "corporate greed wants workers to take less time off for pregnancy" is so far fetched it might just be the silliest conspiracy theory I've heard in awhile. The amount of money going into the design, research, regulatory hurdles etc will not be paid off by decreased PTO usage. If anything, it'll just get used up again when the infant inevitably gets sick or a care worker isn't available to watch them. Thanks for the chuckle.
  - moomoo11 3y ago
    you're welcome! whatever makes you happy, making up whatever conclusion from what you read! FWIW I did not mention paternity/maternity in my post at all... 10/10 reading comp..
    - 3y ago