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> I'm not sure what this means. See the diagram here: [1] > From my perspective as a user, if after doing the drop in replacement, I can't use my bank's web s

> I'm not sure what this means. See the diagram here: [1] > From my perspective as a user, if after doing the drop in replacement, I can't use my bank's web site or browse Hacker News the same way, or watch TV on Hulu, it's not a drop in replacement because what I did before no longer works Those are centralized services, the idea is to allow the creation of decentralized alternatives that can still be used through familiar tools like the web browser. [1] https://docs.freenet.org/introduction.html https://docs.freenet.org/introduction.html

rascul 3y ago
> Those are centralized services, the idea is to allow the creation of decentralized alternatives that can still be used through familiar tools like the web browser. And if I can't access those services on Freenet then it's not a drop in replacement. It may very well be a replacement. My issue is it being called a drop in replacement if it's not.
- sanity31415 3y ago
  That's one way to interpret "drop in", my interpretation is that you use the existing UI you're familiar with - your browser - the rest is replaced with decentralized services. It sounds like you're looking for an anonymizing proxy like Tor. There is no way to do what you're looking for that could reasonably be considered decentralized.
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  - rascul 3y ago
    > That's one way to interpret "drop in", my interpretation is that you use the existing UI you're familiar with - your browser - the rest is replaced with decentralized services. I feel like we're so far apart on what a drop in replacement is that there's no point continuing this. > It sounds like you're looking for an anonymizing proxy like Tor. There is no way to do what you're looking for that could reasonably be considered decentralized. I'm not looking for anything. I'm concerned that I'm being misled and that can have an impact on my decision to use Freenet in the future.
    - sanity31415 3y ago
      Honestly, you're the first person I've encountered to have such a narrow interpretation of "drop-in". We can agree to disagree.
      - Fatnino 3y ago
        A tankless water heater is a drop in replacement for a traditional water heater. Your contractor messes with it for a day and that evening you are taking a warm shower just like you did the night before. This is what drop in means. But if you were to go around selling people this drop in tankless water heater 150 years ago before homes had the required electricity, you would rightfully be called a liar.
        sanity31415 3y ago
        You're entitled to your opinion, but as you're questioning my motives there is nothing more to discuss.

rascul 3y ago

> Those are centralized services, the idea is to allow the creation of decentralized alternatives that can still be used through familiar tools like the web browser. And if I can't access those services on Freenet then it's not a drop in replacement. It may very well be a replacement. My issue is it being called a drop in replacement if it's not.

sanity31415 3y ago
That's one way to interpret "drop in", my interpretation is that you use the existing UI you're familiar with - your browser - the rest is replaced with decentralized services. It sounds like you're looking for an anonymizing proxy like Tor. There is no way to do what you're looking for that could reasonably be considered decentralized.
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- rascul 3y ago
  > That's one way to interpret "drop in", my interpretation is that you use the existing UI you're familiar with - your browser - the rest is replaced with decentralized services. I feel like we're so far apart on what a drop in replacement is that there's no point continuing this. > It sounds like you're looking for an anonymizing proxy like Tor. There is no way to do what you're looking for that could reasonably be considered decentralized. I'm not looking for anything. I'm concerned that I'm being misled and that can have an impact on my decision to use Freenet in the future.
  - sanity31415 3y ago
    Honestly, you're the first person I've encountered to have such a narrow interpretation of "drop-in". We can agree to disagree.
    - Fatnino 3y ago
      A tankless water heater is a drop in replacement for a traditional water heater. Your contractor messes with it for a day and that evening you are taking a warm shower just like you did the night before. This is what drop in means. But if you were to go around selling people this drop in tankless water heater 150 years ago before homes had the required electricity, you would rightfully be called a liar.
      - sanity31415 3y ago
        You're entitled to your opinion, but as you're questioning my motives there is nothing more to discuss.