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Aren't there countries that still do public executions and corporal punishment? Incarcerations isn't the only form of punishment.

j33zusjuice 3y ago
Yes, but as you know, this discussion isn’t to prove that the US is the worst country in the world. We don’t even consider countries like those that you’re talking about in these conversations because they’re so behind and barbaric. What’s the point of even bringing this up except to distract from the discussion? What are you trying to show or prove with this? Remind everyone of things they already know? Your comment is an attempt to invalidate the legitimacy of the concerns posed above, and nothing more. Most of us though we’d move past the idea that murdering citizens is barbaric, and has no place in the world, yet people like you insist on telling us that we’re OK because we aren’t that, or that it’s not so bad here because it could be so much worse. That’s not useful in any sense.
- dang 3y ago
  Can you please not use HN for political or national or ideological flamewar? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we're trying to avoid it here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
analog31 3y ago
I'm not sure that the quantity (per capita or whatever) of those things exceeds the quantity of incarceration and things like police violence in the US. But even being middle-of-the-road in terms of barbarism is nothing to write home about.
csomar 3y ago
Few countries though since China does it, it affects a big population of the world. Here is the list for 2021 from Wikipedia. There are only two "first-world" countries there. At least 18 countries performed executions in 2021:[13][36][37] Americas (1 country): United States (11) Asia-Pacific (5 countries): Bangladesh (5), China (unknown), Japan (3), North Korea (unknown), Vietnam (unknown) Europe (1 country): Belarus (1+) Middle East and North Africa (8 countries): Egypt (83+), Iran (314+), Iraq (17+), Oman (unknown), Saudi Arabia (65), Syria (24+), UAE (1+), Yemen (14+) Sub-Saharan Africa (3 countries): Botswana (3), Somalia (21+), South Sudan (9+)

j33zusjuice 3y ago

Yes, but as you know, this discussion isn’t to prove that the US is the worst country in the world. We don’t even consider countries like those that you’re talking about in these conversations because they’re so behind and barbaric. What’s the point of even bringing this up except to distract from the discussion? What are you trying to show or prove with this? Remind everyone of things they already know? Your comment is an attempt to invalidate the legitimacy of the concerns posed above, and nothing more. Most of us though we’d move past the idea that murdering citizens is barbaric, and has no place in the world, yet people like you insist on telling us that we’re OK because we aren’t that, or that it’s not so bad here because it could be so much worse. That’s not useful in any sense.

dang 3y ago
Can you please not use HN for political or national or ideological flamewar? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we're trying to avoid it here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

analog31 3y ago

I'm not sure that the quantity (per capita or whatever) of those things exceeds the quantity of incarceration and things like police violence in the US. But even being middle-of-the-road in terms of barbarism is nothing to write home about.

csomar 3y ago

Few countries though since China does it, it affects a big population of the world. Here is the list for 2021 from Wikipedia. There are only two "first-world" countries there. At least 18 countries performed executions in 2021:[13][36][37] Americas (1 country): United States (11) Asia-Pacific (5 countries): Bangladesh (5), China (unknown), Japan (3), North Korea (unknown), Vietnam (unknown) Europe (1 country): Belarus (1+) Middle East and North Africa (8 countries): Egypt (83+), Iran (314+), Iraq (17+), Oman (unknown), Saudi Arabia (65), Syria (24+), UAE (1+), Yemen (14+) Sub-Saharan Africa (3 countries): Botswana (3), Somalia (21+), South Sudan (9+)