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He worked hard for it! lmao edit: to be serious... there's certainly a lot of difficulty in achieving what he did no matter the failure, but when we use the wo

He worked hard for it! lmao edit: to be serious... there's certainly a lot of difficulty in achieving what he did no matter the failure, but when we use the word work to compare an employee worker and a ceo owner, let's be more specific with what we mean. we all understand work here and we talk about its structures day in day out. a ceo's day to day work has you running memeified mental contortions to understand how it translates into customer or employee value. their duties have more to do with the operations and growth of a business in a competitive landscape. this isn't "work to produce", it's work to manage and grow an organization's marginal returns and to seek monopolization in market in various ways as far as the law permits. I personally don't have the same casual respect for these two categories of work in terms of their social worth and am skeptical when people talk of them as equally comparable when talking about things like respectability, social good, whose participation is necessary to produce something, etc

ninth_ant 3y ago
A single parent working three jobs just to cover rent and food works hard. Grifting hedge funds maybe isn’t easy, but get no sympathy from me for “working hard.” Lots of people work hard.
- dazc 3y ago
  'A single parent working three jobs just to cover rent and food works hard.' Is this a reality though? I was desperate for work many years ago and all the part-time jobs were optimized for a specific time of the day - say 10 am to 2pm or thereabouts. I can imagine a scenario where someone is holding down 2 jobs but 3, this is hard to comprehend? For context, I should add I am in the UK where there are perverse incentives to only have one job where you work a maximum of 16 hours because this is where all the work-related benefits (welfare) start to fade away. Not that I was claiming benefits but the 'benefit trap' is where most of the employers set their nets.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    > Is this a reality though? I was desperate for work many years ago and all the part-time jobs were optimized for a specific time of the day - say 10 am to 2pm or thereabouts. > I can imagine a scenario where someone is holding down 2 jobs but 3, this is hard to comprehend? I only ever had two at a time, but it would have been possible to cobble three together (I effectively did this for a semester as I had two jobs, and was also commuting between two college campuses for classes). I managed 3.5 hours of sleep a night except for the weekend. And got to a point where the third energy drink of the day triggered a feeling of sleepiness. For a person without a credential: Early AM) Newspaper delivery or Load line at UPS/FedEX/DHL. Regular hours) A regular job during the day Evening hours) Unload line for UPS/FedEX/DHL Weekends) Babysitting, or whatever. Sleep) Good luck!
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  - wizofaus 3y ago
    > Is this a reality though? Most certainly in the age of the gig economy. Even my own partner has about 4 different jobs now - as a registered nurse. They don't necessarily add up to a massive number of hours a week but she'd no doubt prefer not to have to jump back and forth between so many employers, each with their own set of expectations and management styles etc. But she'd have to settle for a pretty crumby base salary for any sort of full time position.
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- d0gsg0w00f 3y ago
  A CEO presumably is also keeping those jobs alive. Businesses don't run themselves. _Somebody_ has to do it and I bet it's a shot job. Makes you start to understand why certain cultures vehemently upheld arranged marriages. Having kids with the wrong person makes for a lifetime of hell.

ninth_ant 3y ago

A single parent working three jobs just to cover rent and food works hard. Grifting hedge funds maybe isn’t easy, but get no sympathy from me for “working hard.” Lots of people work hard.

dazc 3y ago
'A single parent working three jobs just to cover rent and food works hard.' Is this a reality though? I was desperate for work many years ago and all the part-time jobs were optimized for a specific time of the day - say 10 am to 2pm or thereabouts. I can imagine a scenario where someone is holding down 2 jobs but 3, this is hard to comprehend? For context, I should add I am in the UK where there are perverse incentives to only have one job where you work a maximum of 16 hours because this is where all the work-related benefits (welfare) start to fade away. Not that I was claiming benefits but the 'benefit trap' is where most of the employers set their nets.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > Is this a reality though? I was desperate for work many years ago and all the part-time jobs were optimized for a specific time of the day - say 10 am to 2pm or thereabouts. > I can imagine a scenario where someone is holding down 2 jobs but 3, this is hard to comprehend? I only ever had two at a time, but it would have been possible to cobble three together (I effectively did this for a semester as I had two jobs, and was also commuting between two college campuses for classes). I managed 3.5 hours of sleep a night except for the weekend. And got to a point where the third energy drink of the day triggered a feeling of sleepiness. For a person without a credential: Early AM) Newspaper delivery or Load line at UPS/FedEX/DHL. Regular hours) A regular job during the day Evening hours) Unload line for UPS/FedEX/DHL Weekends) Babysitting, or whatever. Sleep) Good luck!
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- wizofaus 3y ago
  > Is this a reality though? Most certainly in the age of the gig economy. Even my own partner has about 4 different jobs now - as a registered nurse. They don't necessarily add up to a massive number of hours a week but she'd no doubt prefer not to have to jump back and forth between so many employers, each with their own set of expectations and management styles etc. But she'd have to settle for a pretty crumby base salary for any sort of full time position.
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d0gsg0w00f 3y ago
A CEO presumably is also keeping those jobs alive. Businesses don't run themselves. _Somebody_ has to do it and I bet it's a shot job. Makes you start to understand why certain cultures vehemently upheld arranged marriages. Having kids with the wrong person makes for a lifetime of hell.