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Same here. I fear the random nature of a heart attack even more. My ideal is almost to take enough water into the woods to starve in the woods. To really stare

Same here. I fear the random nature of a heart attack even more. My ideal is almost to take enough water into the woods to starve in the woods. To really stare my death in the face and experience it slowly. Clinging to life in a nursing home is a fate worse than death to me. I am sure this all depends on having kids or not. Being child free gives many more options.

becquerel 3y ago
It is incredibly difficult and miserable to starve to death. Experiencing death slowly - isn't living enough for that?
- twelve40 3y ago
  i obviously haven't experienced what you described, since i'm breathing and typing right now, but weeks of going with no food were really pretty calming. The only downside was the weakness and mental fog that affects productivity but if you don't have to work at that point... Of course, all of this is super-individual.
TheCleric 3y ago
This is something I have thought about, but recently have paid attention to stories that seem to be along these lines, such as Gordon Kaye in Great Smokies National Park. While this may seem like a simple way, it seems like it wastes hundreds of people's time that could be spent helping people who are actually wanting help.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > While this may seem like a simple way, it seems like it wastes hundreds of people's time You could just leave a note or email. > that could be spent helping people who are actually wanting help. How many of those people were going to help others otherwise?
  - lazyasciiart 3y ago
    I don't know the Gordon Kaye story, but "those people" that get involved for search and rescue operations are usually professionals who would, in fact, spend that time working to help other people instead.
    - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      In some cases I believe you're right, tradeoffs do happen. In other cases they are just on call. This is why private rescues are so expensive. You aren't just paying for the professionals and the equipment, you're paying for them to sit around until called.
      - lazyasciiart 3y ago
        Yes. You might say that even if they are just sitting around, their presence doing so is considered to be a valuable part of their job, and it is being wasted.

becquerel 3y ago

It is incredibly difficult and miserable to starve to death. Experiencing death slowly - isn't living enough for that?

twelve40 3y ago
i obviously haven't experienced what you described, since i'm breathing and typing right now, but weeks of going with no food were really pretty calming. The only downside was the weakness and mental fog that affects productivity but if you don't have to work at that point... Of course, all of this is super-individual.

TheCleric 3y ago

This is something I have thought about, but recently have paid attention to stories that seem to be along these lines, such as Gordon Kaye in Great Smokies National Park. While this may seem like a simple way, it seems like it wastes hundreds of people's time that could be spent helping people who are actually wanting help.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
> While this may seem like a simple way, it seems like it wastes hundreds of people's time You could just leave a note or email. > that could be spent helping people who are actually wanting help. How many of those people were going to help others otherwise?
- lazyasciiart 3y ago
  I don't know the Gordon Kaye story, but "those people" that get involved for search and rescue operations are usually professionals who would, in fact, spend that time working to help other people instead.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    In some cases I believe you're right, tradeoffs do happen. In other cases they are just on call. This is why private rescues are so expensive. You aren't just paying for the professionals and the equipment, you're paying for them to sit around until called.
    - lazyasciiart 3y ago
      Yes. You might say that even if they are just sitting around, their presence doing so is considered to be a valuable part of their job, and it is being wasted.