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This whole snafu is just because different parts of transportation are lagging. The whole technology needs some integration. No-go zones are already available

This whole snafu is just because different parts of transportation are lagging. The whole technology needs some integration. No-go zones are already available for robo-vacuums. Maybe that crime tape needs some rfid tags in it or something. And why don't cars have an RFID VIN tag? So I could open an account and just drive into my parking garage, drive out again without stopping? Or park in any outdoor city space and be charged similarly? My car wash for heaven's sake has this. But I have to stick a doohickey on the inside of the windshield when I register my contract. The solutions are mostly simple. It's only waiting for regulation/integration.

misnome 3y ago
> Maybe that crime tape needs some rfid tags in it or something. Or maybe, tech companies shouldn’t be testing tech incapable of following laws on public roads.
- mattpallissard 3y ago
  > The solutions are mostly simple. It's only waiting for regulation/integration. Oh for fucks sake, the solution is already as simple as it can get; don't cross a police line. This is already a solved problem.
  - FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
    > the solution is already as simple as it can get; don't cross a police line. "Why the fuck can't Linux just find all the pictures I have of my dog? Who the fuck doesn't know what a dog is? Are these programmers morons?" Later: "Just send an email every Wednesday at 3pm. How fucking hard can it be?" (Wikipedia: "Leap seconds are irregularly spaced because the Earth's rotation speed changes irregularly. Indeed, the Earth's rotation is quite unpredictable in the long term, which explains why leap seconds are announced only six months in advance. [...] Other contributing factors are the movement of the Earth's crust relative to its core, changes in mantle convection, and any other events or processes that cause a significant redistribution of mass. [...] For example, glacial rebound shortens the solar day by 0.6 ms/century and the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake is thought to have shortened it by 2.68 microseconds.") "I don't care, Hennimore, just do the fucking Wednesday thing. And make Linux get my photos of Cupcake."
atoav 3y ago
Or maybe they could task some HI¹ with collecting a comprehensive list of different scenarios which rarely occur in the streets and in which a self driving vehicle is expected to perfom well: accidents, making space for emergency vehicles in stuck traffic, tunnel fires, ... And then when they tested against all that for a decade on their closed test tracks they can let the thing onto the streets. Because even if there were such block out zones, and there was a way to prevent abuse of that system, you'd still have to handle situations without those. ¹ HI: Human Intelligence
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  That would be the other end of the scale I guess, being ultra-careful. But in the US at least, we let teenagers drive after maybe a few hours practice. They make mistakes all the time, and we tolerate them. So our comfort zone is somewhere in between. Perhaps a 'UA Listing' that has a standard for performance in certain scenarios.

misnome 3y ago

> Maybe that crime tape needs some rfid tags in it or something. Or maybe, tech companies shouldn’t be testing tech incapable of following laws on public roads.

mattpallissard 3y ago
> The solutions are mostly simple. It's only waiting for regulation/integration. Oh for fucks sake, the solution is already as simple as it can get; don't cross a police line. This is already a solved problem.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
  > the solution is already as simple as it can get; don't cross a police line. "Why the fuck can't Linux just find all the pictures I have of my dog? Who the fuck doesn't know what a dog is? Are these programmers morons?" Later: "Just send an email every Wednesday at 3pm. How fucking hard can it be?" (Wikipedia: "Leap seconds are irregularly spaced because the Earth's rotation speed changes irregularly. Indeed, the Earth's rotation is quite unpredictable in the long term, which explains why leap seconds are announced only six months in advance. [...] Other contributing factors are the movement of the Earth's crust relative to its core, changes in mantle convection, and any other events or processes that cause a significant redistribution of mass. [...] For example, glacial rebound shortens the solar day by 0.6 ms/century and the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake is thought to have shortened it by 2.68 microseconds.") "I don't care, Hennimore, just do the fucking Wednesday thing. And make Linux get my photos of Cupcake."

atoav 3y ago

Or maybe they could task some HI¹ with collecting a comprehensive list of different scenarios which rarely occur in the streets and in which a self driving vehicle is expected to perfom well: accidents, making space for emergency vehicles in stuck traffic, tunnel fires, ... And then when they tested against all that for a decade on their closed test tracks they can let the thing onto the streets. Because even if there were such block out zones, and there was a way to prevent abuse of that system, you'd still have to handle situations without those. ¹ HI: Human Intelligence

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
That would be the other end of the scale I guess, being ultra-careful. But in the US at least, we let teenagers drive after maybe a few hours practice. They make mistakes all the time, and we tolerate them. So our comfort zone is somewhere in between. Perhaps a 'UA Listing' that has a standard for performance in certain scenarios.