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And why not see which parents teach the best by measuring test results? And then have that person teach full time and the rest can work regular jobs again and o

And why not see which parents teach the best by measuring test results? And then have that person teach full time and the rest can work regular jobs again and oh wait it’s schools again isn’t it

ThunderSizzle 3y ago
Let's also scale it up to hundreds upon hundreds of kids so now everyone is just a number. Let's add a school board that ignores parents, meaning parents no longer have any real say any more. Let's add a teachers union that protects bad teachers, even to the point of keeping pedophiles in schools. Let's close schools for 4 months so kids can work on the fields in the summer and forget everything when they return.
martindbp 3y ago
Who would you like to teach you business: someone who actually founded their own business or an academic? Who would you like to teach you surgery, a surgeon or someone who was taught just enough book knowledge to be considered a teacher? Programming by someone who never programmed? Math by someone who never used math to solve a problem in their life? There are good teachers out there but in general I'm skeptical. Ideally teachers should have at least some real-world knowledge before becoming teachers. Unfortunately where I live teachers are a licensed occupation and you need a 5 year degree for a job with very little pay, so that by itself filters out a ton of experts who might be willing to teach.
- jaggederest 3y ago
  Well, I think it's clear that teaching is a separate skillset: one that, to excel in, requires a bunch of skills that are not common. Especially when teaching below, say, 8th grade, where most of what is being taught is relatively common knowledge, I think specialized teaching skills in the hands of a gifted teacher can outpace experts in their field. (Certainly some of the experts I know have trouble expressing their expertise even to other knowledgeable people in their field, let alone children) That being said, I think in general most children learn like a sponge when given even a tiny bit of encouragement, so it may be moot.
  - martindbp 3y ago
    I don't think teachers are necessarily the main problem with the education system. The one-to-many (20+) rote, fixed curriculum, unpersonalized, forced aspects are worse. Kids provably don't learn much in school.
bitlax 3y ago
Public school teachers are not required to be parents with children in that system, and their compensation and placement are not based predominantly on merit.

And why not see which parents teach the best by measuring test results? And then have that person teach full time and the rest can work regular jobs again and oh wait it’s schools again isn’t it

ThunderSizzle 3y ago

Let's also scale it up to hundreds upon hundreds of kids so now everyone is just a number. Let's add a school board that ignores parents, meaning parents no longer have any real say any more. Let's add a teachers union that protects bad teachers, even to the point of keeping pedophiles in schools. Let's close schools for 4 months so kids can work on the fields in the summer and forget everything when they return.

martindbp 3y ago

Who would you like to teach you business: someone who actually founded their own business or an academic? Who would you like to teach you surgery, a surgeon or someone who was taught just enough book knowledge to be considered a teacher? Programming by someone who never programmed? Math by someone who never used math to solve a problem in their life? There are good teachers out there but in general I'm skeptical. Ideally teachers should have at least some real-world knowledge before becoming teachers. Unfortunately where I live teachers are a licensed occupation and you need a 5 year degree for a job with very little pay, so that by itself filters out a ton of experts who might be willing to teach.

jaggederest 3y ago
Well, I think it's clear that teaching is a separate skillset: one that, to excel in, requires a bunch of skills that are not common. Especially when teaching below, say, 8th grade, where most of what is being taught is relatively common knowledge, I think specialized teaching skills in the hands of a gifted teacher can outpace experts in their field. (Certainly some of the experts I know have trouble expressing their expertise even to other knowledgeable people in their field, let alone children) That being said, I think in general most children learn like a sponge when given even a tiny bit of encouragement, so it may be moot.
- martindbp 3y ago
  I don't think teachers are necessarily the main problem with the education system. The one-to-many (20+) rote, fixed curriculum, unpersonalized, forced aspects are worse. Kids provably don't learn much in school.

bitlax 3y ago

Public school teachers are not required to be parents with children in that system, and their compensation and placement are not based predominantly on merit.