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Mozilla also had it's fair share of commie symbolism, who remembers this: https://www-archive.mozilla.org/party/2002/flyer.html https://www-archive.mozilla.org

by cies 3y ago

Mozilla also had it's fair share of commie symbolism, who remembers this: https://www-archive.mozilla.org/party/2002/flyer.html https://www-archive.mozilla.org/party/2002/flyer.html I actually liked the commie vibes in the free software movement. In some ways the movement was attacking big-capitals, and was attacked by big-capital. Too bad Red Flag Linux[1] (from China) and Red Star Linux[2] (from North Korea) are not actively maintained. Nova Linux[3] (from Cuba) seems to be the only distro still somewhat maintained. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(operating_system)

eesmith 3y ago
> And then when people complained about that, I explained in detail that Futurism was a popular style of propaganda art on all sides of the early 20th century conflicts; it was not used only by the Soviets and the Chinese, but also by US in their own propaganda, particularly in recruitment posters and just about everything the WPA did, and even by the Red Cross. So if you looked at our branding and it made you think of Communism, well, I'm sorry, but that's just a deep misunderstanding of Modern Art history: this is merely what poster art looked like in the 1930s, regardless of ideology! > That was complete bullshit, of course. Yes, I absolutely branded Mozilla.org that way for the subtext of "these free software people are all a bunch of commies." I was trolling. > I trolled them so hard. No direct link to source because jwz.
- nailer 3y ago
  What’s wrong with JWZ?
  - grzm 3y ago
    He redirects links from HN.
- npteljes 3y ago
  You could use a dereferer redirecter, like so: https://dereferer.link/?https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-history-of-the-mozilla-logo/ https://dereferer.link/?https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/the...
  - eesmith 3y ago
    I respect his decision, and decline to use automated technical means to get around it.

by cies 3y ago

eesmith 3y ago

> And then when people complained about that, I explained in detail that Futurism was a popular style of propaganda art on all sides of the early 20th century conflicts; it was not used only by the Soviets and the Chinese, but also by US in their own propaganda, particularly in recruitment posters and just about everything the WPA did, and even by the Red Cross. So if you looked at our branding and it made you think of Communism, well, I'm sorry, but that's just a deep misunderstanding of Modern Art history: this is merely what poster art looked like in the 1930s, regardless of ideology! > That was complete bullshit, of course. Yes, I absolutely branded Mozilla.org that way for the subtext of "these free software people are all a bunch of commies." I was trolling. > I trolled them so hard. No direct link to source because jwz.

nailer 3y ago
What’s wrong with JWZ?
- grzm 3y ago
  He redirects links from HN.
npteljes 3y ago
You could use a dereferer redirecter, like so: https://dereferer.link/?https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-history-of-the-mozilla-logo/ https://dereferer.link/?https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/the...
- eesmith 3y ago
  I respect his decision, and decline to use automated technical means to get around it.