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> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. > Yesterday, I finally realized

> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. > Yesterday, I finally realized ... But I suggest ... s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? that's not just questionable, it also shows a lack of self-reflection and unhealthy levels of impulsiveness. if that text wasn't 13 years old i'd suggest to the author an afternoon on /r/adhdmeme to have a good laugh before moving on with the revised plan. but back then this subreddit didn't exist yet and there was much less useful info on adhd available online or offline. so, from that angle this text might even have some historic raison d'etre.

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
> s/he It's a "she": https://openheartproject.com/about/ https://openheartproject.com/about/ > has been failing Not so sure about that. Read the page at the link (It's the "About" page on the site).
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  i know what you are getting at. but wrt to that article she self-assessedly has been failing up until then.
cseleborg 3y ago
> s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? This was my thought exactly. The internet is full of articles along those lines: I've been doing this new routine for 2 days, here are 8 pieces of advice for you. I recognize the enthusiasm for sharing new discoveries, and it can be inspiring, I just wish those who did would be generally less prescriptive about it.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  it's my impression that a lot of life coaches sell a strategy that they themselves didn't really explore and verify and then basically use their customers and recipients to convince themselves that they know what they are talking about.
  - chippy 3y ago
    It's a variant of the classic book "how to make a million dollars" which contains the advice "sell a book giving instructions on how to make a million dollars by selling a book about the same". Here it's read life advice on the internet to be able to get stuff done to promote life advice on the internet.
    - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
      i'm actually referring to something a bit different. i observed that many people seem to act especially preachy about certain opinions they objectively can't be truly convinced of (yet). my interpretation is that they actually preach to themselves to convince themselves.
      - lazide 3y ago
        That lines up with my experience as well, and I’be caught myself doing it too in the past. Interestingly, it can also be right, but ‘new’ - and just caught up in the excitement of learning. 90% of what everyone says (near as I can tell) is what we’re saying to ourselves.
        2-718-281-828 3y ago
        same here. also stumbled upon that via self-reflection. then observed that pattern with other people. as you say it's probably a normal and healthy impulse but one should not live it out and particularly not build a business around it. and yes, i also think that most communication is a weird form of soliloquy.
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j45 3y ago
>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. I guess that's what many parents are then? Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, but the duration might be different for me. I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle. Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue. I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.
j45 3y ago
>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. While that was an example of trying to do too much, waking up that early isn't super uncommon - I guess that's what many parents are then? Cultivating a healthy and positive inner dialogue is super important. No one is coming to help you to a greater degree than you picking yourself up and learning to treat yourself with care by being a friend to yourself. This is much different than being too self-involved., Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, and leave room to add more in. I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle. Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue. I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.
- hattmall 3y ago
  Any tips for other night owls that helped you be able to make the shift to mornings? I'm being forced awake around 7 am now but can't fall asleep before 2-3 am. I just seem to get all my productive energy after about 10pm.
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    do you get actually productive after 10pm? or more like being awake watching a movie, surfing the internet etc?
    - j45 3y ago
      I do. I used to get more done from 10pm to 2 am than 8 hours Part of it might have been the complexity of the work I was doing at the time that benefitted from thinking during the day and minimizing keyboard time.
      - 3y ago

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago

> s/he It's a "she": https://openheartproject.com/about/ https://openheartproject.com/about/ > has been failing Not so sure about that. Read the page at the link (It's the "About" page on the site).

2-718-281-828 3y ago
i know what you are getting at. but wrt to that article she self-assessedly has been failing up until then.

cseleborg 3y ago

> s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? This was my thought exactly. The internet is full of articles along those lines: I've been doing this new routine for 2 days, here are 8 pieces of advice for you. I recognize the enthusiasm for sharing new discoveries, and it can be inspiring, I just wish those who did would be generally less prescriptive about it.

2-718-281-828 3y ago
it's my impression that a lot of life coaches sell a strategy that they themselves didn't really explore and verify and then basically use their customers and recipients to convince themselves that they know what they are talking about.
- chippy 3y ago
  It's a variant of the classic book "how to make a million dollars" which contains the advice "sell a book giving instructions on how to make a million dollars by selling a book about the same". Here it's read life advice on the internet to be able to get stuff done to promote life advice on the internet.
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    i'm actually referring to something a bit different. i observed that many people seem to act especially preachy about certain opinions they objectively can't be truly convinced of (yet). my interpretation is that they actually preach to themselves to convince themselves.
    - lazide 3y ago
      That lines up with my experience as well, and I’be caught myself doing it too in the past. Interestingly, it can also be right, but ‘new’ - and just caught up in the excitement of learning. 90% of what everyone says (near as I can tell) is what we’re saying to ourselves.
      - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
        same here. also stumbled upon that via self-reflection. then observed that pattern with other people. as you say it's probably a normal and healthy impulse but one should not live it out and particularly not build a business around it. and yes, i also think that most communication is a weird form of soliloquy.

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j45 3y ago

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. I guess that's what many parents are then? Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, but the duration might be different for me. I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle. Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue. I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.

j45 3y ago

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. While that was an example of trying to do too much, waking up that early isn't super uncommon - I guess that's what many parents are then? Cultivating a healthy and positive inner dialogue is super important. No one is coming to help you to a greater degree than you picking yourself up and learning to treat yourself with care by being a friend to yourself. This is much different than being too self-involved., Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, and leave room to add more in. I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle. Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue. I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.

hattmall 3y ago
Any tips for other night owls that helped you be able to make the shift to mornings? I'm being forced awake around 7 am now but can't fall asleep before 2-3 am. I just seem to get all my productive energy after about 10pm.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  do you get actually productive after 10pm? or more like being awake watching a movie, surfing the internet etc?
  - j45 3y ago
    I do. I used to get more done from 10pm to 2 am than 8 hours Part of it might have been the complexity of the work I was doing at the time that benefitted from thinking during the day and minimizing keyboard time.
    - 3y ago