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This a strange framing, because the implication is that small cars are much less safe than others. But this article doesn't mention anything at all about SUVs/t

This a strange framing, because the implication is that small cars are much less safe than others. But this article doesn't mention anything at all about SUVs/trucks. A quick search shows multiple articles saying that all types of cars/SUVs/trucks are doing pretty poorly with this new test on average. Many Popular SUVs Lag Behind in Rear Seat Safety, New Crash Tests Show https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/many-popular-suvs-lag-behind-in-rear-seat-safety-a6607362245/ https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/many-popular... Very large 3-row SUVs might do better on this new test, but I can't actually find many examples. Rivian R1S Is the Only Large SUV To Earn Top Safety Pick+ Award From IIHS https://www.autoevolution.com/news/rivian-r1s-is-the-only-large-suv-to-earn-the-top-safety-pick-award-from-iihs-214463.html https://www.autoevolution.com/news/rivian-r1s-is-the-only-la...

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mardifoufs 3y ago
I'm pretty sure those results can only be compared across vehicles of the same class. As in, a bigger car can get a poor rating while still being better than a smaller car with a good rating.
MichaelZuo 3y ago
Crash test results in the U.S. are ranked relative to other vehicles of roughly the same size. They aren't measured on an absolute scale.
- badpun 3y ago
  On the other han, euro crash tests are absolute (as far as I know). You can see the decrease in safety in smaller car models, down to which part of the body is getting crashed in which type of collision in a smaller car, but is intact in a larger car.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Euro crash tests include large weighted components of safety to others outside the car. So it's totally possible for a car more safe then another for its passengers, in all conditions, to be nonetheless ranked lower because of lower pedestrian safety or something.
    - badpun 3y ago
      You can also check out how the car does in specific tests. So, if you want to ignore risk to pedestrians, you can.
pengaru 3y ago
Crash test/safety ratings are useless for comparing across vehicle classes. Generally speaking smaller cars are the loser when it comes to collisions, if the other vehicle is larger/heavier. Even if both sides have best-in-class safety scores.

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mardifoufs 3y ago

I'm pretty sure those results can only be compared across vehicles of the same class. As in, a bigger car can get a poor rating while still being better than a smaller car with a good rating.

MichaelZuo 3y ago

Crash test results in the U.S. are ranked relative to other vehicles of roughly the same size. They aren't measured on an absolute scale.

badpun 3y ago
On the other han, euro crash tests are absolute (as far as I know). You can see the decrease in safety in smaller car models, down to which part of the body is getting crashed in which type of collision in a smaller car, but is intact in a larger car.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Euro crash tests include large weighted components of safety to others outside the car. So it's totally possible for a car more safe then another for its passengers, in all conditions, to be nonetheless ranked lower because of lower pedestrian safety or something.
  - badpun 3y ago
    You can also check out how the car does in specific tests. So, if you want to ignore risk to pedestrians, you can.

pengaru 3y ago

Crash test/safety ratings are useless for comparing across vehicle classes. Generally speaking smaller cars are the loser when it comes to collisions, if the other vehicle is larger/heavier. Even if both sides have best-in-class safety scores.