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Do you have any evidence of anyone in the US being convicted and put to death for writing software without anyone knowing about it, or is this just some additio

Do you have any evidence of anyone in the US being convicted and put to death for writing software without anyone knowing about it, or is this just some additional snarky rhetoric being tossed about that mirrors your dim view of the US? Seriously, if the first, I would like to know. Unlike in Iran, I might be able to affect the outcome here.

smokeyj 15y ago
I only said if it did happen here, you wouldn't know about it. I don't mean to offend your sense of patriotism. I still feel this statement is factual given the fact you're asking me for instances. Can I prove someone was secretly detained for voicing their opinion? No. It's a secret. This is like asking someone to prove they don't have something. What I do know is, due process has been suspended in the U.S via ndaa, the patriot act, and soon to be enemy expatriation act. I do know americans have been detained in gitmo for owning a casio watch. I have nothing against the U.S. I live here and enjoy the privileges the constitution affords me. But I feel it is important to be critical of our own government rather than saying 'hey, at least we're not IRAN'. That isn't a very high standard at all.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  >I do know americans have been detained in gitmo for owning a casio watch. Really now? You'll have to pardon me for being skeptical of this. Americans have been detained in gitmo, absent any other evidence, for owning a particular model of watch? Citation badly needed. I'm afraid you are very foggy on the definition of "factual". Something isn't "factual" if there's no evidence to support it.
  - smokeyj 15y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_accused_of_possessing_Casio_watches http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainee...
    - chrisdroukas 15y ago
      Captured with, not captured for.
    - Karunamon 15y ago
      Must've forgotten the "absent any other evidence" part.

smokeyj 15y ago

I only said if it did happen here, you wouldn't know about it. I don't mean to offend your sense of patriotism. I still feel this statement is factual given the fact you're asking me for instances. Can I prove someone was secretly detained for voicing their opinion? No. It's a secret. This is like asking someone to prove they don't have something. What I do know is, due process has been suspended in the U.S via ndaa, the patriot act, and soon to be enemy expatriation act. I do know americans have been detained in gitmo for owning a casio watch. I have nothing against the U.S. I live here and enjoy the privileges the constitution affords me. But I feel it is important to be critical of our own government rather than saying 'hey, at least we're not IRAN'. That isn't a very high standard at all.

Karunamon 15y ago
>I do know americans have been detained in gitmo for owning a casio watch. Really now? You'll have to pardon me for being skeptical of this. Americans have been detained in gitmo, absent any other evidence, for owning a particular model of watch? Citation badly needed. I'm afraid you are very foggy on the definition of "factual". Something isn't "factual" if there's no evidence to support it.
- smokeyj 15y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_accused_of_possessing_Casio_watches http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainee...
  - chrisdroukas 15y ago
    Captured with, not captured for.
  - Karunamon 15y ago
    Must've forgotten the "absent any other evidence" part.