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NodePad: LLM-aided graph based note-taking and brainstorming tool

85 points by beshrkayali 3y ago

tunesmith 3y ago
To skip the LLM explanation, start watching the video at 1:45. The product description starts around 2:14.
sigmonsays 3y ago
UI functionality seems broken on firefox 113
- NathanielBaking 3y ago
  I am on same on Ubunutu 23.01 and seems fine. ff 113.01 fwiw
imranq 3y ago
Nice! There is probably a whole space of applications that help users effectively prompt engineer a workflow with a UI
dogline 3y ago
But, what is this? Check website, no real text, just a video. Ok, fine. Video opens with an explanation of LLMs. Close video after a bit. Still don't know what this is or what it brings to the table. I'm not going to sit through a long video to figure it out.
- lisasays 3y ago
  Indeed. If people need to watch a video just to get an idea of what your software does or how it can be useful - it's broken by design.
- kayyalims 3y ago
  Heya, maker here. I understand your frustration and and sorry for the lack of clarity. Let me provide you with a brief explanation of what this is all about. NodePad is really a simple experiment. The purpose of is to tackle the issue of inconsistent responses in Language Models (LLMs) and explore potential solutions through the user interface (UI).(hence the video, I understand though that it wasn't exactly helpful :) ) The tool itself is quite straightforward. It allows you to express your thoughts rapidly by typing them into the input field at the top. Once you've entered your thoughts, you can then further develop or question them individually using the brainstorming feature. You may connect them visually or just download the cancas as a markdown file.
  - masukomi 3y ago
    without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward. It sounds like you've dupliacted a chatGPT interface and then... i dunno added a way to draw lines between answers? The elevator pitch for this really needs work. Like Maybe a simple screenshot of the result + a description of the bits that aren't obvious from that would be helpful on the site. hopefully constructive suggestions: > NodePad is a simple LLM-assisted brainstorming experiment designed to help you quickly capture ideas, expand on them, question them, and organize them visually! a) don't care if it's LLM assisted. and only geeks know what LLM means. I care if it's going to intelligently help me b) "x is a brainstorming experiment" means that x is a brainstorming experiment NOT that x is an experiment that helps you brainstorm. These are very different things. I think you mean "NotePad is an experiment that uses AI to help you brainstorm" c) organize them visually could mean literally anything with a visual component. You gotta give me more words or a screenshot.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      > without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward. It sounds like you've dupliacted a chatGPT interface and then... i dunno added a way to draw lines between answers? IDK, if someone did just that, I'd happily pay for it - especially if those answers and lines formed a DAG, offering a nice interface to fork and merge conversations.
    - kayyalims 3y ago
      Thanks, agreed makes a lot more sense to present it this way. I think I was trying to explain a lot of ideas I had while working on this to a point where things became either redundant of not helpful. I'll adjust the about section.
    - cush 3y ago
      > without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward Have you considered.... watching the video?
      - masukomi 3y ago
- sorokod 3y ago
  The video is less then four minutes long, is that too much for you?
richardanaya 3y ago
The content restrictions seem overly restrictive.
- monkeydust 3y ago
  very - to the point where its not really usable, look into it guys
- kayyalims 3y ago
  Thanks for this. Can you provide examples? I'm still working on adjusting that.
  - MacsHeadroom 3y ago
    Why would a text tool have any content restrictions? It's ridiculous. Microsoft Word, Google Docs, Notepad, vim, etc. do not prevent me from writing about anything. If I want to mind-map political joke ideas or brainstorm adult toy names that's my business. I can't even use this tool to brainstorm about the pros and cons of different content restriction systems, the irony.
- mrbungie 3y ago
  It appears to mark anything remotely related to "destruction" as restricted content. Or rather, you can clean a phrase by using the word "saint". Won't work: How should a demolitions expert expect to be treated by an architect? Works: How should a saint expect to be treated by an architect? (silly questions I know, just to make the point)
_neil 3y ago
Nice! I just started building something very similar on top of React Flow last weekend.
june_twenty 3y ago
The idea is sound but will surely be done by the MS and Googles of the world - even Dropbox will get in on this with paper. The execution is bad. I could add notes but nothing else really happened.
cush 3y ago
In the video, the actual demo starts at 2:20
ilovefood 3y ago
This is really cool and quite fun to use! I very much enjoy having all the information on one screen and pair with an LLM to brainstorm and test ideas. I'm wondering if there is any way of running this locally, against my own models?
bajme 3y ago
for what it's worth as someone who uses mind mapping tools daily for brainstorming this seemed pretty intuitive to me. I was up and running mapping something out pretty quickly. I wasn't sure what the brain and detective icon were so I just clicked them and found out
- forbiddenvoid 3y ago
  I wish "Click It and Find Out" was the default behavior for more people.
  - beshrkayali 3y ago
    That’s how I learned most software on my machine when I was younger pre internet at home.
fire 3y ago
This is very cool! I'd really like something like this for local models to integrate with Obsidian
blazespin 3y ago
Here's a similar project that was done awhile ago https://github.com/qrdlgit/simbiotico https://github.com/qrdlgit/simbiotico
- blazespin 3y ago
  And another - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIfhunAwZew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIfhunAwZew These folks have been working on this for quite awhile.
unshavedyak 3y ago
Pretty cool! The branches i got back from my prompt felt a bit too concrete, though. My prompt probably sucked, but sub-node felt .. off. It just wrapped my prompt. Love the idea though, will explore again in the future
furyofantares 3y ago
A local version of this would be great, I've been wanting to organize my prompts and conversations in a mind mapping type way. But to be blunt, I have zero interest in a web version.
arthurcolle 3y ago
"The content is not suitable for brainstorming or question generation" Okay, well apparently asking for a list of semaglutide distributors is thoughtcrime Prompt: "Looking for a list of semaglutide distributors" fails Prompt: "Semaglutide" fails
ftxbro 3y ago
Another one like this is 'loom' https://github.com/socketteer/loom https://github.com/socketteer/loom which was used in the research of the simulators essay https://generative.ink/posts/simulators/ https://generative.ink/posts/simulators/
- kayyalims 3y ago
  Great read! thanks for this.

85 points by beshrkayali 3y ago

tunesmith 3y ago

To skip the LLM explanation, start watching the video at 1:45. The product description starts around 2:14.

sigmonsays 3y ago

UI functionality seems broken on firefox 113

NathanielBaking 3y ago
I am on same on Ubunutu 23.01 and seems fine. ff 113.01 fwiw

imranq 3y ago

Nice! There is probably a whole space of applications that help users effectively prompt engineer a workflow with a UI

dogline 3y ago

But, what is this? Check website, no real text, just a video. Ok, fine. Video opens with an explanation of LLMs. Close video after a bit. Still don't know what this is or what it brings to the table. I'm not going to sit through a long video to figure it out.

lisasays 3y ago
Indeed. If people need to watch a video just to get an idea of what your software does or how it can be useful - it's broken by design.
kayyalims 3y ago
Heya, maker here. I understand your frustration and and sorry for the lack of clarity. Let me provide you with a brief explanation of what this is all about. NodePad is really a simple experiment. The purpose of is to tackle the issue of inconsistent responses in Language Models (LLMs) and explore potential solutions through the user interface (UI).(hence the video, I understand though that it wasn't exactly helpful :) ) The tool itself is quite straightforward. It allows you to express your thoughts rapidly by typing them into the input field at the top. Once you've entered your thoughts, you can then further develop or question them individually using the brainstorming feature. You may connect them visually or just download the cancas as a markdown file.
- masukomi 3y ago
  without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward. It sounds like you've dupliacted a chatGPT interface and then... i dunno added a way to draw lines between answers? The elevator pitch for this really needs work. Like Maybe a simple screenshot of the result + a description of the bits that aren't obvious from that would be helpful on the site. hopefully constructive suggestions: > NodePad is a simple LLM-assisted brainstorming experiment designed to help you quickly capture ideas, expand on them, question them, and organize them visually! a) don't care if it's LLM assisted. and only geeks know what LLM means. I care if it's going to intelligently help me b) "x is a brainstorming experiment" means that x is a brainstorming experiment NOT that x is an experiment that helps you brainstorm. These are very different things. I think you mean "NotePad is an experiment that uses AI to help you brainstorm" c) organize them visually could mean literally anything with a visual component. You gotta give me more words or a screenshot.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    > without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward. It sounds like you've dupliacted a chatGPT interface and then... i dunno added a way to draw lines between answers? IDK, if someone did just that, I'd happily pay for it - especially if those answers and lines formed a DAG, offering a nice interface to fork and merge conversations.
  - kayyalims 3y ago
    Thanks, agreed makes a lot more sense to present it this way. I think I was trying to explain a lot of ideas I had while working on this to a point where things became either redundant of not helpful. I'll adjust the about section.
  - cush 3y ago
    > without watching the video that sounds .... not straightforward Have you considered.... watching the video?
    - masukomi 3y ago
sorokod 3y ago
The video is less then four minutes long, is that too much for you?

richardanaya 3y ago

The content restrictions seem overly restrictive.

monkeydust 3y ago
very - to the point where its not really usable, look into it guys
kayyalims 3y ago
Thanks for this. Can you provide examples? I'm still working on adjusting that.
- MacsHeadroom 3y ago
  Why would a text tool have any content restrictions? It's ridiculous. Microsoft Word, Google Docs, Notepad, vim, etc. do not prevent me from writing about anything. If I want to mind-map political joke ideas or brainstorm adult toy names that's my business. I can't even use this tool to brainstorm about the pros and cons of different content restriction systems, the irony.
mrbungie 3y ago
It appears to mark anything remotely related to "destruction" as restricted content. Or rather, you can clean a phrase by using the word "saint". Won't work: How should a demolitions expert expect to be treated by an architect? Works: How should a saint expect to be treated by an architect? (silly questions I know, just to make the point)

_neil 3y ago

Nice! I just started building something very similar on top of React Flow last weekend.

june_twenty 3y ago

The idea is sound but will surely be done by the MS and Googles of the world - even Dropbox will get in on this with paper. The execution is bad. I could add notes but nothing else really happened.

cush 3y ago

In the video, the actual demo starts at 2:20

ilovefood 3y ago

This is really cool and quite fun to use! I very much enjoy having all the information on one screen and pair with an LLM to brainstorm and test ideas. I'm wondering if there is any way of running this locally, against my own models?

bajme 3y ago

for what it's worth as someone who uses mind mapping tools daily for brainstorming this seemed pretty intuitive to me. I was up and running mapping something out pretty quickly. I wasn't sure what the brain and detective icon were so I just clicked them and found out

forbiddenvoid 3y ago
I wish "Click It and Find Out" was the default behavior for more people.
- beshrkayali 3y ago
  That’s how I learned most software on my machine when I was younger pre internet at home.

fire 3y ago

This is very cool! I'd really like something like this for local models to integrate with Obsidian

blazespin 3y ago

Here's a similar project that was done awhile ago https://github.com/qrdlgit/simbiotico https://github.com/qrdlgit/simbiotico

blazespin 3y ago
And another - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIfhunAwZew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIfhunAwZew These folks have been working on this for quite awhile.

unshavedyak 3y ago

Pretty cool! The branches i got back from my prompt felt a bit too concrete, though. My prompt probably sucked, but sub-node felt .. off. It just wrapped my prompt. Love the idea though, will explore again in the future

furyofantares 3y ago

A local version of this would be great, I've been wanting to organize my prompts and conversations in a mind mapping type way. But to be blunt, I have zero interest in a web version.

arthurcolle 3y ago

"The content is not suitable for brainstorming or question generation" Okay, well apparently asking for a list of semaglutide distributors is thoughtcrime Prompt: "Looking for a list of semaglutide distributors" fails Prompt: "Semaglutide" fails

ftxbro 3y ago

Another one like this is 'loom' https://github.com/socketteer/loom https://github.com/socketteer/loom which was used in the research of the simulators essay https://generative.ink/posts/simulators/ https://generative.ink/posts/simulators/

kayyalims 3y ago
Great read! thanks for this.