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I have to imagine that faced with the choice of US bases scattered across Europe vs Chinese bases, most Europeans would choose Pax Americana. It's probable that
by safety1st 3y ago
I have to imagine that faced with the choice of US bases scattered across Europe vs Chinese bases, most Europeans would choose Pax Americana. It's probable that under Pax Sinica, you wouldn't even be able to have this conversation.
Europe's gratitude toward the American military-industrial complex is not required, the US gets plenty out of the deal. However the only realistic alternative for Europeans is to expand their own, and boy does that come with a lot of downsides.
- surgical_fire 3y agoI was just using a very blatant absurd hypothesis to make it clear that nothing about whatever military agreements in between European countries and the US is something to be taken with gratitude (as implied in the original post I was replying to). As someone living in Europe, I am grateful for the EU, and I wish the constituent countries to be more integrated over time. I see no reason to be grateful for the US for its military presence here. They do it for their own benefit, and should definitely leave if the cost to them is too high for whatever benefit it gets. For Europe it's just convenient.
- ROTMetro 3y ago[flagged]
- surgical_fire 3y agoAre you implying that the US does not subsidize its existence by taking wealth from outside countries? That it does not project it's behavior and morality on others? It had to be on HN for me to read bullshit this absurd. The nerve on these people.