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The invention of broadleaf herbicides like 2,4-d (herbicides that kill broadleaf “weeds” but not grass) has been disastrous. Now it’s expected you regularly sp

The invention of broadleaf herbicides like 2,4-d (herbicides that kill broadleaf “weeds” but not grass) has been disastrous. Now it’s expected you regularly spray chemicals on your lawn. Sometimes your neighbor can even use county, state, and city laws to compel you to do it.

philips 3y ago
Yeah it is a huge issue. Oregon last year stopped enabling HOAs to force homeowners to spray herbicide or insecticide on their properties. HB2409 2021 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_94.763 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_94.763
emptyfile 3y ago
People spray herbicides around their lawn in America? Around their place of living? Bizarre.
- salad-tycoon 3y ago
  In America, we demand the finest green laws that money and better living through chemistry can provide. A persons lawn is indicative of their status in society and how high functioning they are. Perfect flush and lush green is sought after, many big YouTube channels only discuss how to achieve a better lawn than the jerks down the street. Bonus points for symmetrical patterns mowed into the lawn. So it’s a status symbol. Lots of people do deleterious things to achieve status. I don’t think it’s “weird” but rather maybe a bit dumb Do you eat non organic cereals of basically any kind? Those are loaded with it too.
- nerpderp82 3y ago
  Biocides!
- msrenee 3y ago
  Even better, we dump pesticides all over our yards to kill mosquitos, grubs, and beetles. There's signs all over town here advertising spraying for mosquitos with who knows what. There's trucks driving around advertising spraying for everything with more than four legs and even a number of less desirable things with four legs. And then we wonder why our pollinators are all dying off. Agricultural pesticides are bad enough. Covering every last inch of green near our houses with pesticides and herbicides is another nail in the coffin.
  - soperj 3y ago
    Not in the USA, people around me are doing "No Mow May" to leave flowers and long grass for pollinators.
    - UncleOxidant 3y ago
      Not in your USA. There are multiple USAs it seems. I did No Mow May last year (on just a small part of the yard) and the guy across the street started shouting at me until June (at which point he just started shouting about other things)
      - nsxwolf 3y ago
        In many towns it is illegal to just let your lawn grow wild.
      - soperj 3y ago
        As in, I'm not in the USA, not as in, this doesn't happen in the USA.
        UncleOxidant 3y ago
        Oh, sorry, I got a completely different meaning there. I'm increasingly thinking it would be good to be "Not in USA". Cheers!
        msrenee 3y ago
        That's how I interpreted it too. Dang text. My neighbors don't give me any trouble about my yard thankfully. I just try to minimize the number of dandelion seeds I share with them. Collected a bunch of flowers for a friend the other day who wanted to make some jelly with them. I haven't put any chemicals down in the back yard since we moved in and she was talking about how she didn't know what was safe to harvest. Went ahead and got her set up, lol. Keeps the puffballs down and she's got her jelly ingredients. Win-win.
        3y ago
- nsxwolf 3y ago
  Yes because dandelions make your lawn look like shit.

philips 3y ago

Yeah it is a huge issue. Oregon last year stopped enabling HOAs to force homeowners to spray herbicide or insecticide on their properties. HB2409 2021 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_94.763 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_94.763

emptyfile 3y ago

People spray herbicides around their lawn in America? Around their place of living? Bizarre.

salad-tycoon 3y ago
In America, we demand the finest green laws that money and better living through chemistry can provide. A persons lawn is indicative of their status in society and how high functioning they are. Perfect flush and lush green is sought after, many big YouTube channels only discuss how to achieve a better lawn than the jerks down the street. Bonus points for symmetrical patterns mowed into the lawn. So it’s a status symbol. Lots of people do deleterious things to achieve status. I don’t think it’s “weird” but rather maybe a bit dumb Do you eat non organic cereals of basically any kind? Those are loaded with it too.
nerpderp82 3y ago
Biocides!
msrenee 3y ago
Even better, we dump pesticides all over our yards to kill mosquitos, grubs, and beetles. There's signs all over town here advertising spraying for mosquitos with who knows what. There's trucks driving around advertising spraying for everything with more than four legs and even a number of less desirable things with four legs. And then we wonder why our pollinators are all dying off. Agricultural pesticides are bad enough. Covering every last inch of green near our houses with pesticides and herbicides is another nail in the coffin.
- soperj 3y ago
  Not in the USA, people around me are doing "No Mow May" to leave flowers and long grass for pollinators.
  - UncleOxidant 3y ago
    Not in your USA. There are multiple USAs it seems. I did No Mow May last year (on just a small part of the yard) and the guy across the street started shouting at me until June (at which point he just started shouting about other things)
    - nsxwolf 3y ago
      In many towns it is illegal to just let your lawn grow wild.
    - soperj 3y ago
      As in, I'm not in the USA, not as in, this doesn't happen in the USA.
      - UncleOxidant 3y ago
        Oh, sorry, I got a completely different meaning there. I'm increasingly thinking it would be good to be "Not in USA". Cheers!
        msrenee 3y ago
        That's how I interpreted it too. Dang text. My neighbors don't give me any trouble about my yard thankfully. I just try to minimize the number of dandelion seeds I share with them. Collected a bunch of flowers for a friend the other day who wanted to make some jelly with them. I haven't put any chemicals down in the back yard since we moved in and she was talking about how she didn't know what was safe to harvest. Went ahead and got her set up, lol. Keeps the puffballs down and she's got her jelly ingredients. Win-win.
        3y ago
nsxwolf 3y ago
Yes because dandelions make your lawn look like shit.